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8. As usual the article makes the assualt weapons ban look like it was a good idea...
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 07:50 PM
Jan 2012

But actually it was a total flop. That's why it expired.

The article in the OP says:


After several high-profile shooting incidents in the 1980s and ’90s, the guns became the notorious poster child for wanton violence and Second Amendment over-reaching. Congress enacted and former President Bill Clinton signed the Assault Weapons Ban back in 1994, which made it illegal to sell 19 types of semi-automatic rifles, as well as ammunition clips that held more than 10 rounds.


The article makes it sound like a person could not buy 19 different types of semi-auto rifles during the ban. These rifles were banned because of certain cosmetic features such as a bayonet mount or a flash suppressor. The firearm manufacturers merely eliminated these objectionable items and produced new models that were functionally the same as the banned models.

High capacity ammunition magazines or "clips" that held more than 10 rounds were always available during the ban. They were just more expensive. Everybody that I knew who owned a "black rifle" bought several of these accessories.

The article goes on to say:


The legislation expired in 2004, and since then, assault rifles have come storming back.


Actually the biggest failure of the assault weapons ban was that it made these weapons popular. Prior to the ban few shooters had much interest in owning such a weapon but human nature being what it is, gun owners developed an interest in owning them after the ban. And guess what...shooters found they were far more accurate and reliable than was originally thought.

And the writer makes another stupid statement when he says:


On the one hand, I can’t see why anybody really needs one of these blasters. They’re not practical for hunting, and in the wrong hands they’re powerful weapons capable of killing an awful lot of people at one time.


Bullshit. They are used for hunting.


F&S Picks the 25 Best AR-Style Rifles
Photo Gallery by Michael O. Humphries. Uploaded on May 13, 2009
An Intro to the AR-Style Rifle

Black guns often get a bum rap. They can look a bit menacing, and their configuration and controls are radically different than those found on traditional sporting firearms. But the hunter who automatically dismisses AR-style rifles as legitimate sporting guns would be doing himself a major disservice. Why? Because the AR is one of the most capable, adaptable, and appealing firearm platforms on the market today. And these characteristics are helping it gain traction in the civilian market in its semi-automatic-only form.

***snip***

Over the past 50 years manufacturers have taken advantage of the gun’s modularity to attach optics and accessories, add new operating systems, allow larger chamberings, and even create civilian-legal semi-automatic-only versions. These guns have proved capable and popular with shooters of all stripes, especially varmint hunters. And recent developments have expanded the platform to big-game hunters as well....emphasis added

This is because the qualities that make AR rifles so successful as a military design also make them highly capable as hunting firearms. Many models boast sub-MOA accuracy right out of the box, with some variants featuring performance that rivals that of custom target rifles.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/photos/gallery/hunting/2009/05/fs-picks-25-best-ar-style-rifles


It's obvious that the writer of the article has an agenda and has no intention of allowing facts to stand in its way. That is what so often disappoints me about most of the articles I read in the mainstream media about firearms.

Firearms and gun control are fairly simple subjects and a reporter doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to understand them. Any interested individual can quickly learn the facts about firearms by researching the web and surely any reporter who is worth his pay can do so also.

Other subjects are far more complicated and require far more research to even gain a basic understanding. If the mainstream media can't get its facts straight on simple subjects such as firearms or gun control, how can I believe anything they print about the ecomony or any of the other important issues facing our nation?








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Given unemployment, some Walmart employees are becoming distinguished. nt SteveW Jan 2012 #1
or maybe they're part of the "words with friends" trend. ileus Jan 2012 #2
Most of the people I know that work at Walmart burf Jan 2012 #9
True. If they had said "whatever," then they would be marked. nt SteveW Jan 2012 #14
We have DU members who work at Walmart. nt Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #63
Just the same old obsessed people buying another one to add to the cache. Hoyt Jan 2012 #3
Funny, then, how polls show many are new gun owners. TheWraith Jan 2012 #4
Or they'll pass them down to the kids, or grandchildren... ileus Jan 2012 #6
Whoever is buying them, they are buying A LOT of them. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #10
No chit, manufacturers pander to baser instincts/desires of gun culture. Hoyt Jan 2012 #44
Did Dr. King get pandered? E6-B Jan 2012 #47
He had reason -- although no proof he carried them. Lots of people were after him. Hoyt Jan 2012 #54
just like Toyota panders with the prius...or apple panders with the Ipad ileus Jan 2012 #50
Don't think that car panders to your baser instincts. Now, if they mount guns on the hood, you'd Hoyt Jan 2012 #55
"base instinct" Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #52
Note he he won't define the term, or explain how it applies to guns. n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #57
Check the expiration date.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #56
Just the same old obsessed person whining about it on the internet rl6214 Jan 2012 #35
This post reminded me of: ellisonz Jan 2012 #39
Until docs put you on Aricept and they take your guns away. Hoyt Jan 2012 #45
I have all my faculties, obviously you don't rl6214 Jan 2012 #61
rude death spewer toter! ileus Jan 2012 #51
It's.. it's.. it's full of memes! (In my best 2000 a space odyssey voice) X_Digger Jan 2012 #5
My 9yo daughter could write better facts about guns and law than this "guns kill people" writer. ileus Jan 2012 #7
Classic X_Digger post #497 NT Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #46
As usual the article makes the assualt weapons ban look like it was a good idea... spin Jan 2012 #8
They tried to make it sould like there was an actual ban. ileus Jan 2012 #11
That is a revision of history. There was no ban! The sad part is... spin Jan 2012 #12
Those plastic firearms with extended magazines, flash hiders and collapsible stocks. Remmah2 Jan 2012 #13
I like ARs but gejohnston Jan 2012 #15
oh damn....that thing is real. WTF? ileus Jan 2012 #17
Cowboy Tactical FTW friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #18
That thing makes Hipoints look good. ileus Jan 2012 #23
Now you're just being nasty.... PavePusher Jan 2012 #25
No I was talking about those ugly (but reliable) carbines. ileus Jan 2012 #28
Jest pullin' yer leg.... PavePusher Jan 2012 #30
"after my Taurus PT1911 was stolen." ellisonz Jan 2012 #40
Yep. And after doing everything you'd want me to. PavePusher Jan 2012 #41
How'd they break into the locked metal case? ellisonz Jan 2012 #42
good for you....I'll continue to carry. ileus Jan 2012 #49
They either ripped it free, or cut the cable holding it to the seat frame, took the cable with them. PavePusher Jan 2012 #59
Sorry about your loss...but the anti's got what they want ileus Jan 2012 #48
Good Ter Jan 2012 #16
??? The seller or the buyer? n/t oneshooter Jan 2012 #19
Buyer Ter Jan 2012 #20
Not in Texas and I believe 40 other states. oneshooter Jan 2012 #21
How about a driver's license? Ter Jan 2012 #27
Ummm... seriously? PavePusher Jan 2012 #31
Not in your area obviously Ter Jan 2012 #36
My apology if that seemed snarky, it was an actual honest question. PavePusher Jan 2012 #37
This helps explain some of your other posts. ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #38
Cash and carry in MI michreject Jan 2012 #43
I am guessing that you thought the article was about actual assault rifles. ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #22
No I knew the article was talking about semi-autos, but the writer is too stupid to know... ileus Jan 2012 #24
You guessed wrong Ter Jan 2012 #26
All guns require that when buying from a dealer. ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #29
You don't need to show ID or a permit to buy private-party, only from dealers. LAGC Jan 2012 #32
They were never illegal, even 1994-2004. benEzra Jan 2012 #34
They never left. That author thinks the 1994 law banned new AR's/AK's, but it did not. benEzra Jan 2012 #33
You know Ben.. virginia mountainman Jan 2012 #53
I'm shopping for one again. jeepnstein Jan 2012 #58
6.5, 6.8, 458, 50, 223, 410....so many calibers so little time. ileus Jan 2012 #60
Happy now? nt Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #62
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