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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
7. I believe that the core of the issue is thus:
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:57 AM
Jan 2012

Part 1:

As Chief Executive, Obama has the power to issue executive orders, and appoint powerful people, that can make buying, selling, owning, lawfully using, and transporting guns difficult. He can do this even if Congress doesn't add, subtract, or change any legislation.

As a community organizer, state senator, and federal senator, Obama supported and promoted several anti-gun measures that are the mainstay of the gun-control movement: assault weapons ban, magazine-capacity limit, etc.

The fear was that, based on his history, once in a position to issue those executive orders and appoint those high-powered officials, he would act in such a manner as he was able to in order to achieve his previously-stated goals.



Part 2:

As a Democrat, President Obama is the titular head of the Democratic Party. And since the party platform and a couple of decades of experience have shown that the party is dedicated to being anti-gun. Naturally, they would assume that Congressional Democrats would work towards this (especially after the huge majorities we had in 2008). And that Obama, even if he wasn't personally a frothing anti-gun person, would not take a public stand against anti-gun legislation, would not work with Congress to get it removed from legislation, and wouldn't veto it if it made it to his desk.

The fear was that dedicated Democrats might pass anti-gun laws and that Obama would sign them, even if he wasn't that keen on it.



Part 3:

The NRA is right on the technical legal issues. Unfortunately, they coach this rightness in overly-emotional and somewhat wild-eyed rhetoric.

I hesitate to call them "paranoid", for the simple fact that repetitive questioning can make a person seem paranoid. Always asking "but why do you need..." eventually make the answer sound defensive.

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I need help, re: guns and gun control. [View all] babylonsister Jan 2012 OP
Well, sounds like his logic is off.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #1
Oh, Babylonsister, bless your heart for asking that question here. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #2
Thanks! I have no problem with people who are members babylonsister Jan 2012 #3
No, the Obama admin has not said it wants to stop the sale of all guns and ammo. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #5
Point out to him that nothing has, in fact, happened. TheWraith Jan 2012 #4
Your are fogetting about the 2005 "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act". GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #42
Post 2 summed it up best mvccd1000 Jan 2012 #6
I believe that the core of the issue is thus: krispos42 Jan 2012 #7
His first 60 days...... E6-B Jan 2012 #8
That's interesting. What actions or statements are you referring to? aikoaiko Jan 2012 #9
Obama seeks Assault Weapon Ban E6-B Jan 2012 #10
Perhaps you missed this... babylonsister Jan 2012 #11
Perhaps you don't know he wants back the AWB. E6-B Jan 2012 #21
Perhaps there's more to gun control than the AWB... ellisonz Jan 2012 #22
He may want it, but he knows the consequences of pushing for it: Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #37
True enough AG Holder and SoS Clinton both made remarks about renewing the AWB but were silenced. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #14
Bluntly Lurks Often Jan 2012 #12
death spewer enabler....just say no. ileus Jan 2012 #13
Aikoaiko and Krispos have pretty much covered all the bases. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #15
You think President Romney won't sign a ban? jeepnstein Jan 2012 #16
I really hope Obama brings up Romney's AWB if he is the Repub candidate aikoaiko Jan 2012 #17
He'd do it, too. jeepnstein Jan 2012 #18
"I can hear it in a debate." Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #38
I agree that the denial to let the US made Garands back in from Korea was lame. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #39
A major factor in gun sales increase is because of tragedies like this one. Unfortunately the Wistful Vista Jan 2012 #19
It is difficult to find major Democratic leaders who are NOT in favor of gun control... SteveW Jan 2012 #20
As pro-gun poster #15 describes: "The NRA is mostly using fear to drum up membership." ellisonz Jan 2012 #23
And so does the Brady Campaign, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, and the VPC. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #24
There's a difference between fear of a spiraling militarization of society... ellisonz Jan 2012 #25
spiraling militarization? gejohnston Jan 2012 #26
Probably because they don't carry guns around and don't shoot each other. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #33
which has nothing to do with personal guns gejohnston Jan 2012 #35
I would have to say that while Obama has not acted against guns/2A while president... OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2012 #27
The NRA is full of shit and lied about Obama in 2008 and will lie about Obama in 2012. They are..... Logical Jan 2012 #28
Allow me to repost from above, his first 40 days in office seeks new assault weapon ban. E6-B Jan 2012 #31
Who will you be voting for in November? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #34
Want me to list what the NRA said he would do? And compare it to what he REALLY Did? Stop... Logical Jan 2012 #36
Just wear an safeinOhio Jan 2012 #29
Sound advice... ellisonz Jan 2012 #32
I happen to have one, Obama as Superman. babylonsister Jan 2012 #40
I wear one to the gun range and safeinOhio Jan 2012 #41
+1000 ellisonz Jan 2012 #43
It mostly stems from the DLC/Third Way blitz on the "assault weapon" fraud in the '90s through '04. benEzra Jan 2012 #30
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