Gun Control & RKBA

DonP

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12. Don't forget what happened to S&W when they agreed with Clinton on the AWB

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:25 PM

Dec 2012

IIRC ... the British investment firm that bought the brand signed a "letter of intent" style document to abide by the spirit of the '94 AWB.

Dealers across the country took all their S&W firearms out of the display case and many of them shipped them back to the wholesalers.

Eventually that version of S&W went belly up and was repurchased by an American group and re-launched to the public with basically a letter of apology.

But it still took years and major investments in promotion (Jerry Mikulek etc.) to get their original reputation back.

I highly doubt that many, if any, dealers would go along with a program whose goal is ultimately eliminating their means of making a living.

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Should we try to form an alliance with gun dealers? [View all] BlueStreak Dec 2012 OP

given current IT technology gejohnston Dec 2012 #1

Hmm... Let me think about that. Nope, not a chance. jeepnstein Dec 2012 #2

You are saying you have a right to the same hardware that cops and the military have? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #3

Why not? jeepnstein Dec 2012 #4

Are you suggesting that the cops have special guns? ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #23

Actually, I think that actually *was* the intent of the 2nd Amendment roninjedi Dec 2012 #36

Why not? Why should police/military be a special class, elevated above the body of the Citizenry? PavePusher Dec 2012 #64

Waiting periods don't actually work, either.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #27

You think you should have the same capabilities as the police, federal agencies or military? doc03 Dec 2012 #34

I should have said, I am interested in comments from people who want to see sensible gun laws BlueStreak Dec 2012 #5

The gun dealers would not trust you. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #7

Do you think that is true of all gun dealers? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #10

the NRA would mobize reactionary bloggers gejohnston Dec 2012 #9

I'm sure they would fight, but BlueStreak Dec 2012 #11

probably not, but gejohnston Dec 2012 #14

I'm not going to debate the philosophy of a hypothetical. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #25

since all economies are demand based, gejohnston Dec 2012 #32

What kind of carrot would you have offered to Adam Lanza to not have murdered all of those children? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #33

the carrot would be for his mom to gejohnston Dec 2012 #41

What carrot would you have offered his mother to take better care of her weapons? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #47

Don't forget what happened to S&W when they agreed with Clinton on the AWB DonP Dec 2012 #12

How many gun dealers do you personally know? oldhippie Dec 2012 #60

I'm in the Midwest. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #61

Just curious .... oldhippie Dec 2012 #65

What do you expect a waiting period to accomplish? GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #6

I will only discuss the gun dealer angle here. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #8

Any dealer clffrdjk Dec 2012 #16

Colt has already been there, done that, got spanked by gun owners. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #19

I am suggesting the administration organize an outreach BlueStreak Dec 2012 #21

Momentum to cut into their own profits? GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #26

Come on. You're talking in circles now. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #29

until it happens again gejohnston Dec 2012 #38

That is why all rational gun owners should work with us NOW BlueStreak Dec 2012 #49

but the real issue isn't going to be addressed gejohnston Dec 2012 #50

That rationalization will not work here BlueStreak Dec 2012 #51

Never said it wasn't gejohnston Dec 2012 #52

Actually no BlueStreak Dec 2012 #54

I was talking about gejohnston Dec 2012 #55

Moving the goalposts, eh? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #56

not moving the goal posts at all gejohnston Dec 2012 #57

As I have said, I am not commenting about specific regulations here BlueStreak Dec 2012 #59

Point one and two maybe....all others no. ileus Dec 2012 #13

thoughts on your proposals. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #15

from what I can tell, gejohnston Dec 2012 #18

"The only reason gun sales go through dealers is so that a background doc03 Dec 2012 #31

The OP proposed licensing for gun ownership. n/t Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #35

The way the post was written it sounds like he claims some kind doc03 Dec 2012 #40

I agree. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #44

The "license" I was referring to would be equivalent to a background check BlueStreak Dec 2012 #62

some minor problems... virginia mountainman Dec 2012 #17

I'm not here to debate the possible regulations. This is about the strategy of involving gun dealers BlueStreak Dec 2012 #20

Ok, what is your carrot to get the dealers on board? clffrdjk Dec 2012 #22

Thank you. Here you go. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #24

straight to the pocketbook that is smart clffrdjk Dec 2012 #42

Regarding your points 1) and 3) BlueStreak Dec 2012 #45

I read through most of the comments and I see someone has come up with doc03 Dec 2012 #28

It would be nicer if we simply referred to 6-year-olds as BlueStreak Dec 2012 #30

the real issue is mental health gejohnston Dec 2012 #37

It makes me sick to read through this crap. I own guns I hunt, target shoot, doc03 Dec 2012 #39

If I may? gejohnston Dec 2012 #43

Thank you. Many of us are afraid of all gun owners BlueStreak Dec 2012 #46

Lots of things CAN be done. beevul Dec 2012 #53

Here's what I'd do kudzu22 Dec 2012 #48

A humble suggestion... beevul Dec 2012 #58

Point by point... PavePusher Dec 2012 #63