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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
57. not moving the goal posts at all
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:12 AM
Dec 2012

just being consistent in my outlook. If you look at any of my old posts when gun death vs death regardless of weapon, I have always had the same outlook and replies. They are all equally dead and tragic. When you look at wealth inequality, we are closer to Mexico and Brazil than Europe. Been to Mexico, Philippines, Europe, Japan, South Korea. Even Saudi Arabia and Oman.
Yes Canada and Belgium does. Canada did when their federal laws were about the same or laxer than ours too.

So, what do you think of my ideas on gun regulations? So you don't have to look for the OP, here they are

-----each state develop a mechanism for private sellers to know who are doing business with, with incentives for complying and disincentives for not. Michigan's "clean bill of health" from the cops is a good example
---For ammo capacity, I would go with Bill Ruger's 15. OK, ten for rifles and leave pistols out of it. Have the government buy shit loads of ten or 15 rounders. Each 30 round mag you bring in during the grace period to the cops, post office, participating gun dealers, you get two legal mags plus 50 bucks. The mall ninja drums become NFA AOW, like pistol forward grips.
---Pistol magazines should be extend past the but of the grip. Pistols with magazine wells that are not in the grip, should be limited to whatever is common in Olympic/ISSF. One exception would be antiques like the Mauser C-96 and other curio and relics.
-----Since we have an 11 percent tax on guns and ammo as it is, add another four percent. Keep the first 11 percent going to Pitmann Roberston environmental projects (losing it is a deal breaker, I would tell Brady and NRA to fuck off) and use the extra four percent on guns, ammo, accessories, and video games toward public mental health. For the mental health, we should tax more stuff. Move Tile 2 transference taxes from general fund to mental health and Pittman Roberston as well.
---Regulate silencers like France, Norway, Finland, and New Zealand does.
---Revise NFA SBR restrictions to be more "common sense." I have no details, but regulating a single shot rifle with a 15 inch barrel the same as a machine gun is not "common sense."
---Repeal the Hughes Amendment
---The Lautenberg Amendment prohibits gun possession by those convicted of domestic violence. To that life time ban, I would also include juvenile convections of animal cruelty. For other violent misdemeanors, five years.

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given current IT technology gejohnston Dec 2012 #1
Hmm... Let me think about that. Nope, not a chance. jeepnstein Dec 2012 #2
You are saying you have a right to the same hardware that cops and the military have? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #3
Why not? jeepnstein Dec 2012 #4
Are you suggesting that the cops have special guns? ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #23
Actually, I think that actually *was* the intent of the 2nd Amendment roninjedi Dec 2012 #36
Why not? Why should police/military be a special class, elevated above the body of the Citizenry? PavePusher Dec 2012 #64
Waiting periods don't actually work, either.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #27
You think you should have the same capabilities as the police, federal agencies or military? doc03 Dec 2012 #34
I should have said, I am interested in comments from people who want to see sensible gun laws BlueStreak Dec 2012 #5
The gun dealers would not trust you. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #7
Do you think that is true of all gun dealers? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #10
the NRA would mobize reactionary bloggers gejohnston Dec 2012 #9
I'm sure they would fight, but BlueStreak Dec 2012 #11
probably not, but gejohnston Dec 2012 #14
I'm not going to debate the philosophy of a hypothetical. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #25
since all economies are demand based, gejohnston Dec 2012 #32
What kind of carrot would you have offered to Adam Lanza to not have murdered all of those children? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #33
the carrot would be for his mom to gejohnston Dec 2012 #41
What carrot would you have offered his mother to take better care of her weapons? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #47
Don't forget what happened to S&W when they agreed with Clinton on the AWB DonP Dec 2012 #12
How many gun dealers do you personally know? oldhippie Dec 2012 #60
I'm in the Midwest. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #61
Just curious .... oldhippie Dec 2012 #65
What do you expect a waiting period to accomplish? GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #6
I will only discuss the gun dealer angle here. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #8
Any dealer clffrdjk Dec 2012 #16
Colt has already been there, done that, got spanked by gun owners. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #19
I am suggesting the administration organize an outreach BlueStreak Dec 2012 #21
Momentum to cut into their own profits? GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #26
Come on. You're talking in circles now. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #29
until it happens again gejohnston Dec 2012 #38
That is why all rational gun owners should work with us NOW BlueStreak Dec 2012 #49
but the real issue isn't going to be addressed gejohnston Dec 2012 #50
That rationalization will not work here BlueStreak Dec 2012 #51
Never said it wasn't gejohnston Dec 2012 #52
Actually no BlueStreak Dec 2012 #54
I was talking about gejohnston Dec 2012 #55
Moving the goalposts, eh? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #56
not moving the goal posts at all gejohnston Dec 2012 #57
As I have said, I am not commenting about specific regulations here BlueStreak Dec 2012 #59
Point one and two maybe....all others no. ileus Dec 2012 #13
thoughts on your proposals. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #15
from what I can tell, gejohnston Dec 2012 #18
"The only reason gun sales go through dealers is so that a background doc03 Dec 2012 #31
The OP proposed licensing for gun ownership. n/t Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #35
The way the post was written it sounds like he claims some kind doc03 Dec 2012 #40
I agree. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #44
The "license" I was referring to would be equivalent to a background check BlueStreak Dec 2012 #62
some minor problems... virginia mountainman Dec 2012 #17
I'm not here to debate the possible regulations. This is about the strategy of involving gun dealers BlueStreak Dec 2012 #20
Ok, what is your carrot to get the dealers on board? clffrdjk Dec 2012 #22
Thank you. Here you go. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #24
straight to the pocketbook that is smart clffrdjk Dec 2012 #42
Regarding your points 1) and 3) BlueStreak Dec 2012 #45
I read through most of the comments and I see someone has come up with doc03 Dec 2012 #28
It would be nicer if we simply referred to 6-year-olds as BlueStreak Dec 2012 #30
the real issue is mental health gejohnston Dec 2012 #37
It makes me sick to read through this crap. I own guns I hunt, target shoot, doc03 Dec 2012 #39
If I may? gejohnston Dec 2012 #43
Thank you. Many of us are afraid of all gun owners BlueStreak Dec 2012 #46
Lots of things CAN be done. beevul Dec 2012 #53
Here's what I'd do kudzu22 Dec 2012 #48
A humble suggestion... beevul Dec 2012 #58
Point by point... PavePusher Dec 2012 #63
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