Gun Control & RKBA

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130. FOX sez: If you support sensible gun laws you aren't allowed to use a gun in a sensible way.

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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:44 PM

Dec 2012

How is it that the RW propaganda machines get away with their ridiculous statements and straw men?

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Armed men guarded Media Matters boss as he took $400,000 gun control donation [View all] shadowrider Feb 2012 OP

wow virginia mountainman Feb 2012 #1

I don't blame him RayTy Feb 2012 #2

And I'd agree with that IF IF IF the anti's allowed NORMAL everyday Americans shadowrider Feb 2012 #4

What countries outlaw all guns? oneshooter Feb 2012 #13

about the only countries that actually outlaw privately owned guns gejohnston Feb 2012 #23

You mean "sensible countries" like Sudan, where firearms are banned? TheWraith Feb 2012 #24

Hypocrisy as the new Liberal norm? Seriously? PavePusher Feb 2012 #46

"Outsiders" Callisto32 Feb 2012 #52

True. n/t PavePusher Feb 2012 #55

You need to have a chat with my cousins... Clames Feb 2012 #56

It doesn't matter to him. He believes that is "safer" than freedom. oneshooter Feb 2012 #58

We figured it up... Clames Feb 2012 #73

What a total crock of shit. You just lost all credibility. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #105

I don't give a single sailing... Clames Feb 2012 #110

I don't think anyone has a firm grasp about the laws anywhere. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #111

The Brits have draconian knife laws. ... spin Dec 2012 #131

And I'm with you on all that. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #132

We do somethings agree. That's positive. (n/t) spin Dec 2012 #133

Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #112

That's one of the weirder falsehoods I've seen today. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #137

At two years old clffrdjk Apr 2014 #138

not one of the reasons at all gejohnston Apr 2014 #139

Thanks for your tongue-through-cheek sarcasm! Great stuff. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #101

I Brock were carrying that would be one thing but professional security...... Bonhomme Richard Feb 2012 #3

I can't afford personal security. Is my life any less important? n/t shadowrider Feb 2012 #5

I can't afford security either.... Bonhomme Richard Feb 2012 #29

Where does it say he was "professional security"? DonP Feb 2012 #9

not getting the inconsistency here KT2000 Feb 2012 #6

Carrying in DC is against the law - period. DonP Feb 2012 #7

So cops don't have guns in DC? nt valerief Feb 2012 #12

Cops yes, private citizens no DonP Feb 2012 #17

And the Secret Service don't have guns? And the military don't have guns? nt valerief Feb 2012 #19

I think of the Secret Service as "Cops" and the military only carries when on duty DonP Feb 2012 #22

You seem to be missing that this guy was none of the above. TheWraith Feb 2012 #26

Feds are allowed carry 24/7 ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #33

What point are you trying to make? n/t PavePusher Feb 2012 #47

See #7. Also, there are other non-gun threads here, too. nt valerief Feb 2012 #49

There is, of course, a vast gulf between carry as a Citizen.... PavePusher Feb 2012 #50

Not really. jeepnstein Dec 2012 #113

OK, that makes absolutely no sense at all DonP Feb 2012 #51

valerief. This sentence: Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #76

See # 16 burf Feb 2012 #21

There are exemptions for high level private security ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #14

Of course. The 1% have far more rights than the average citizen... spin Feb 2012 #31

Teddy Kennedy's private security got busted one-eyed fat man Feb 2012 #40

IIRC gejohnston Feb 2012 #41

you have not been reading the propaganda very well gejohnston Feb 2012 #25

Who would want to kill YOU? Callisto32 Feb 2012 #54

In DC????? one-eyed fat man Feb 2012 #38

Once again, shades of Ed Hale at BWI. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #114

In addition to DonP's post... SteveW Feb 2012 #102

Aren't security people supposed to carry? I don't want Drunken Joe Idiot to carry. nt valerief Feb 2012 #8

See post 7. It's against the law in D.C. n/t shadowrider Feb 2012 #10

The laws regarding DC gun ownership are all burf Feb 2012 #16

Nobody carries in DC, just like Chicago, no permits, no CCW, no armed security DonP Feb 2012 #11

Having seen armed private security first hand...in the presence of DC police, I assume there is ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #15

Just like NYC, how rich are you and how connected DonP Feb 2012 #20

There is a way. Been there, Done that. oneshooter Feb 2012 #43

so FOX is teaming up with Alan Dershowitz to ruin Media Matters? grasswire Feb 2012 #18

Is it unfactual? Cites, please. n/t PavePusher Feb 2012 #48

Well that's not at all hypocritical, rl6214 Feb 2012 #27

-- snort -- shadowrider Feb 2012 #28

I've always liked that analogy. n/t burf Feb 2012 #30

Thanks for bringing the FOX News attack campaign against Media Matters here to DU!! DanTex Feb 2012 #32

I remember when Brock was one of them gejohnston Feb 2012 #34

cheap shot grasswire Feb 2012 #60

I'll have to find the book gejohnston Feb 2012 #61

No doubt, Brock was one of them for a time. grasswire Feb 2012 #62

IIRC, gejohnston Feb 2012 #69

What to you think of Brock's decision to hire an armed bodyguard? ... SteveW Feb 2012 #104

So, this account is not true? Would it be true if WaPo had covered it? SteveW Feb 2012 #103

fucking lame. you can hate the NRA and still own and use guns ffs frylock Feb 2012 #35

Look at it more generally: how would you feel about a person who petronius Feb 2012 #36

Spend a lot of time at the Fox News, eh? ellisonz Feb 2012 #37

No, but I have news tickers across the top of the screen shadowrider Feb 2012 #44

The 99%ers don't deserve firearm rights... ileus Feb 2012 #39

Of course not, it wouldn't be fair. They already outnumber the 1% petronius Feb 2012 #42

Anti-rights organizations and movements are often rife with hypocrisy. n/t OneTenthofOnePercent Feb 2012 #45

can't trust peasants with firearms...only pitchforks. ileus Feb 2012 #53

Hey!! You'll get my torch when you pry it from my ummmm, cold... dead... uuuhhhh..... n/t PavePusher Feb 2012 #57

Flame bait! Remmah2 Feb 2012 #59

Flame, most certainly. Bait? Weeeeeeeeeeeelllllll...... PavePusher Feb 2012 #75

you can't find corroboration but believe the story is true? grasswire Feb 2012 #63

either way gejohnston Feb 2012 #64

You are wrong. grasswire Feb 2012 #65

I was once naive gejohnston Feb 2012 #66

We'll know it's true if Haydn Price-Morris *doesn't* sue The Daily Caller for libel. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #70

Gun-control is the Soma of most MSM, and that seems to include MM as well. SteveW Feb 2012 #106

I see some of the usual gun forum commenters are absent.... AzWorker Feb 2012 #67

They are MIA for the same reason that you won't find a story Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #68

I noticed that..strange, idin't it? shadowrider Feb 2012 #71

Some have voiced their burf Feb 2012 #72

They pick and choose according to agenda. ileus Feb 2012 #74

Unsurprisingly... beevul Feb 2012 #77

I wish the NRA DUers could find some cites besides right-wing propaganda organs Doctor_J Feb 2012 #78

I issue this challange to you, the same as I've offered it to others shadowrider Feb 2012 #79

It never occurs to you that there might be a reason that non-right-wing sites DanTex Feb 2012 #81

Out to smear? I think not. Out to show the hypocrisy of the anti-gun movement? shadowrider Feb 2012 #82

Your efforts at whitewashing a FOX smear campaign are amusing. DanTex Feb 2012 #83

You think that's amusing shadowrider Feb 2012 #88

Do you see any of us linking to right-wing sources? n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #89

All the time and I'm not the one doing it. shadowrider Feb 2012 #91

Maybe being pro-gun isn't left-wing? ellisonz Feb 2012 #92

So the info in the article is false, is that what you're saying? shadowrider Feb 2012 #93

I think it's a stupid point... ellisonz Feb 2012 #94

Why should large sums of private money be protected Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #115

Like I said above... DanTex Feb 2012 #97

I think Eugene V. Debs thought it was. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #108

Mhmm. beevul Feb 2012 #98

I went to it from the latimes.com coverage... ellisonz Feb 2012 #99

Why are you asking me? beevul Feb 2012 #100

It does occur. And Kates and Kleck have pretty much explained why... SteveW Feb 2012 #107

I don't have to. Every page of every issue of every one of these rags Doctor_J Feb 2012 #84

The info is true. shadowrider Feb 2012 #90

Do anti-gun DUers get an exemption? beevul Feb 2012 #80

Nope. Back when we had unrec, I proudly unrec'd Doctor_J Feb 2012 #85

So the information from the article does not matter to you, only the rag that printed it. oneshooter Feb 2012 #86

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #95

So if it is not printed in HuffPo it never happened. No true Scotsman, again. oneshooter Feb 2012 #96

And there you go, the essential truth after so many postings. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #109

Don't hold your breathe... ellisonz Feb 2012 #87

Big Deal fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #116

he was carrying in violation of DC law gejohnston Dec 2012 #117

Actually fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #118

if he is against me defending myself in my home gejohnston Dec 2012 #119

Trying to Redirect? fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #120

that is assuming he was licensed. gejohnston Dec 2012 #121

Good Try fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #122

the origial article was that he was unlicensed and not a security type gejohnston Dec 2012 #123

Not fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #124

Hmm, only Fox covered this? Hmm, must be one of them commie conspiracies... CTyankee Dec 2012 #125

Nawwwwwwwwww gejohnston Dec 2012 #126

Oh, I see...I guess... CTyankee Dec 2012 #135

Wow -- if this is the level of post from the proliferationists now, they *really* "got nothin'" villager Dec 2012 #127

it's an old OP gejohnston Dec 2012 #128

You're right -- I guess it's just getting new responses and thus, still in the "crawl" villager Dec 2012 #129

FOX sez: If you support sensible gun laws you aren't allowed to use a gun in a sensible way. blm Dec 2012 #130

MediaMatters is not a gun control group: MediaMatters tracks rightwing lies struggle4progress Dec 2012 #134

although often true gejohnston Dec 2012 #136