Gun Control & RKBA

socialindependocrat

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18. Now you know how the Teabaggers feel when we argue for pro-choice.

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:51 AM

Dec 2012

Actually, after the FL killing of Travon Martin I think the stand your ground thing is too
messy to have on the books.

but

The Castle Law I do believe is of value in protecting one's home.

If you use the "you may shoot one of your friends or neighbors" argument - I will say this -
All my friends know I own guns and would never enter my home without letting me know
they were coming first - They know..

I defend the right to go target shooting with a firearm of my choice
I have done nothing wrong
I have broken no laws
I shoot paper targets and bowling pins and steel targets.

I case you weren't aware - there is a "Zen" to shooting.
You could read "Zen and the Art of Archery"

Do I think that we have a problem with mentally unstable people misusing firearms that needs to
be dealt with - YES

So, let's find a solution for the problem

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It's time to repeal the GOP/NRA liability protection of gun makers and sellers [View all] jpak Dec 2012 OP

They do what they are designed to do - socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #1

That was their goal. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #3

Drug companies can be sued for defective products designed to save lives jpak Dec 2012 #4

You can sue a gun manufacturer for a defective gun. socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #6

You can sue a bar or a host for serving alcohol jpak Dec 2012 #8

That's because they have established a responsibility for serving someone alcohol who is already... socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #12

How did the GOP/NRA establish that guns are different from anything else? jpak Dec 2012 #15

I don't understand your question socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #20

Why are gun manufacturers and gun shops different from other businesses? jpak Dec 2012 #22

Because they are being misused socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #25

Cars also have to be registered, licenced and insured. Crunchy Frog Dec 2012 #92

Because you side was filing loads of frivilous lawsuits against the gun industry. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #28

Wrongful Death is not "frivolous" - except to Wayne LaPierre wannabees jpak Dec 2012 #30

The sue the one who pulled the trigger. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #33

Nope - sue the gun maker for selling a product designed only to kill - efficiently jpak Dec 2012 #34

Are baseball bats designed only to maim? Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #35

Guns are specifically designed to kill - baseball bat afllacy fail jpak Dec 2012 #36

Sure looks to me like bats were specifically designed to maim. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #37

Then sue the fuck out of baseball bat AND gun makers jpak Dec 2012 #43

Baseball bats can kill, I know shadowrider Dec 2012 #95

So if somebody is speeding, and kills somebody, should we be allowed to sue GM? Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #52

Good argument for requiring all gun owners to carry insurance on their guns. Crunchy Frog Dec 2012 #93

Now it is time to protect the innocent from the crazy gun owners. Thinkingabout Dec 2012 #53

You are smearing a rather large group. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #57

Then it is time to split the NRA, the good from the bad, then we can smear the bad. Thinkingabout Dec 2012 #61

And you differentiate between then, presumable, by which agree with you and which don't? N/T beevul Dec 2012 #68

It is an easy decision, those who are deluded and think armed guards in every school Thinkingabout Dec 2012 #91

They didn't. The anti gun lobby did. N/T beevul Dec 2012 #46

Ya can't sue the liquor manufacturer sir pball Dec 2012 #31

Well then, gun manufacturers should object to a repeal jpak Dec 2012 #39

Till somebody like you ends up on the jury sir pball Dec 2012 #44

Try suing Budweiser or Sam Adams for the death of a drunk person first. krispos42 Dec 2012 #56

It happened in the Sandy Hook massacre. ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #29

Governor? SQUEE Dec 2012 #42

Yes, a governor. We do it with cars all the time. ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #45

Considering your name... SQUEE Dec 2012 #47

Autos, Semi-autos, and Jarts are all different consumer products. ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #51

where have I said this? SQUEE Dec 2012 #54

I'm a Logician by profession, so if I've made a logical error... ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #58

Please point out the design defects. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #73

The governor either malfunctioned or was nonexistant, due to a design flaw. ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #74

The "governor" worked just fine. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #81

The governor didn't work just fine if it failed to detect that the trigger pulls were... ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #82

Wow. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #83

And yet, here you are.... n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #84

The governor either malfunctioned or was nonexistant, due to a design flaw. ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #75

The governor either malfunctioned, or was nonexistent, due to a design flaw. ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #76

Not sure why my posts aren't posting to you, but I'm tired of deleting and trying again. ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #77

no malfunction gun functioned as designed generalhh Dec 2012 #49

Is a defective design better than a malfunction when it comes to liability? ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #50

No its purpose is to Kill generalhh Dec 2012 #63

I'm opposed to killing school children. (nt) ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #80

Are we supposed to be impressed by your ignorance? PavePusher Dec 2012 #70

Are you stalking me? (nt) ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #78

You are posting on a public forum, in a topic I frequent. PavePusher Dec 2012 #85

When a mass murderer's gun jams... sanatanadharma Dec 2012 #59

I, uh...hm. That's interesting. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #64

I would love to be on that jury gejohnston Dec 2012 #65

I wonder exactly how this would work. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #71

That's not it at all - How do you people jump to this illogic. socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #72

Or if they fail to honor a warranty agreement, I imagine. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #79

Jams are actually routine events Hudjes Dec 2012 #87

No, we are not going to let you sue the gun industry into bankruptcy. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #2

Yes we are jpak Dec 2012 #5

How about trying to help find a solution to the problem instead of just trying to irritate people? socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #7

Gun nuts irritate me with their GOP/NRA/ALEC agenda jpak Dec 2012 #9

Now you know how the Teabaggers feel when we argue for pro-choice. socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #18

Well then - you have nothing to fear from repealing the gun liability law jpak Dec 2012 #21

That would eliminate the Yup factor ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #10

Pray tell - who is Dave Hester? jpak Dec 2012 #11

Yuuuuuuuuuuuup!! -..__... Dec 2012 #19

Ole dave hester is also a big gun hater. ileus Dec 2012 #14

I don't hate guns jpak Dec 2012 #16

There you go! We both have a problem with gun nuts! socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #23

Good...goooood. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #26

then why don't you go find some and give 'em hell. yup! Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #66

They're not designed to kill. ileus Dec 2012 #13

If they are derived from military weapons - they most certainly are.... jpak Dec 2012 #17

I have to agree - They are designed for militray use socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #24

All guns are derived from military weapons. N/T GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #32

and they should be held accountable in court jpak Dec 2012 #41

Well, ethical intent is not neccessarily part of mechanical design. Hudjes Dec 2012 #88

If a car careens out of control because of a poorly designed or missing governor, ... ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #27

so, if some one commits a mass murder with a baseball bat gejohnston Dec 2012 #38

Fuck yeah jpak Dec 2012 #40

at least gejohnston Dec 2012 #90

Most likly no malfunction generalhh Dec 2012 #48

An itchy trigger finger is a poor substitute for a properly functioning mechanical governor. ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #97

What's your source for this information? Hudjes Dec 2012 #86

A clear example of willful negligence in the design of this consumer product. ehrenfeucht games Dec 2012 #96

Oo, oo, oo, can I sue US Steel and Alcoa, too? krispos42 Dec 2012 #55

sure you can, kid. this is America, you can sue anybody. will you win? that is the question. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #62

Considering that the House is controlled by Republicans ... spin Dec 2012 #60

All the fear & gibbering in this thread tells you WHICH tactic is likely to be most effective apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #69

Why do gun owners belong in federal prison? Hudjes Dec 2012 #89

You are being too logical - I hope they are gentle with you NT Howzit Dec 2012 #94