Gun Control & RKBA

farminator3000

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42. i totally agree with you

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:10 PM

Dec 2012

https://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2010/02/19

except they aren't used that much in self defense. 600 or so justifiable homicides a year.

i'd say in reality, if you get mugged by a gun toter, you are more likely to become a homicide than pull out your gun like wyatt earp.

also, i looked up that 600 on the fbi's site. they wanted me to participlate in a customer survey!

"did you find the murder statistics you were looking for?"

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How many bullets does one need for self defense? [View all] ArcticFox Dec 2012 OP

As many as it takes, I guess. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #1

that's a hard question gejohnston Dec 2012 #2

I agree as far as handguns tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #6

30 rounds is not really arbitrary. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #7

I was thinking of the number 30 tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #8

20 is a good number for the AR-based rifles. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #11

It's also IMO the best size if you're bench shooting. Glassunion Dec 2012 #18

The rifle ammunition that I recently bought Glassunion Dec 2012 #17

And those "strips" were actually "clips" ... oldhippie Dec 2012 #30

I was keeping it simple. Glassunion Dec 2012 #31

Me too! oldhippie Dec 2012 #32

What I found tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #9

You bring up a good point discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #25

Depends on the firearm Lurks Often Dec 2012 #33

Thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #39

This is where product reliability comes in. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #75

I'm not sure any more tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #3

The most often quoted stat is ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #4

Rtalon Rtalon Dec 2012 #5

Probably 5 or 6 should do it, IMHO. southerncrone Dec 2012 #10

One... sarisataka Dec 2012 #12

impossible to answer on the basis of need former-republican Dec 2012 #13

What caliber, how dark is it, how much cover is available, is the attacker using it..... Callisto32 Dec 2012 #14

is the attacker using it? there is also a problem with your question farminator3000 Dec 2012 #41

"if you need more than 2 bullets for one person, maybe hire a bodyguard?" guardian Dec 2012 #64

on what planet is this real information? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #70

Nice deflection. Care to get back on point? guardian Dec 2012 #84

that would be great. so what is your point? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #88

Calculate the zombie/shooter ratio. How many zombies will be attacking your house? leveymg Dec 2012 #15

Trained pros like cops and military have something like a 17% ileus Dec 2012 #16

How many times a year have firearms safeinOhio Dec 2012 #19

How many times are firearms used in self defense without a shot fired? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #28

oh snap! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #43

Or shotguns according to some ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #60

pump your brakes, buddy farminator3000 Dec 2012 #72

i totally agree with you farminator3000 Dec 2012 #42

that is just where someone is killed gejohnston Dec 2012 #44

so if you go with 100K farminator3000 Dec 2012 #47

who knows gejohnston Dec 2012 #48

stop picking ma nits farminator3000 Dec 2012 #49

Many don't know that gejohnston Dec 2012 #50

so that's why you are being condescending? you are an 'expert'? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #55

One more than the bad guy. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #20

It is not a question of how many rounds are needed to stop a goblin. Hangingon Dec 2012 #21

Instances of a homeowner firing more then a few rounds are very rare. Kaleva Dec 2012 #22

What's the current limit on people permitted to participate in a home invasion? Remmah2 Dec 2012 #23

The real scoop from a pro-gun person. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #24

I like more and more the idea of rescheduling semi's with detachable mags as Class 3 weapons Recursion Dec 2012 #27

That is exactly what I am thinking. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #29

I would be open to some reg like this if... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #36

What is the problem with Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #74

It gives government(s) de facto access to my guns Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #85

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #87

Thank you once again. I have lived in Texas for 40+ yrs, but Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #91

I love the merely Eleanors38 Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #94

one quick correction gejohnston Dec 2012 #95

Well, that explains a lot. Thanks. Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #96

One other thing I forgot to mention.... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #89

I wouldn't want street patrols by armed military either. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #93

Nonsense Lurks Often Dec 2012 #34

Then an AR15 with a 100 round clip makes your home invincible! jpak Dec 2012 #38

Usually one atreides1 Dec 2012 #26

I purchase hand-gun ammo in 50/100 boxes Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #35

One. RoccoR5955 Dec 2012 #37

2x the number of attackers, plus 1. jmg257 Dec 2012 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author jody Dec 2012 #45

Too many is always better than not enough slackmaster Dec 2012 #46

Has anyone ever been killed for not having enough? Kaleva Dec 2012 #65

About 100 Texans come to mind slackmaster Dec 2012 #73

Wasn't that akin to a military battle? ArcticFox Dec 2012 #86

ANSWER: As Many Bullets as it Takes... Iggy Dec 2012 #51

Look at the DSM manual. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #57

Here We Go Again..... Iggy Dec 2012 #58

Then use those markers. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #59

I GET IT, But Please Get Real Here Iggy Dec 2012 #61

Huh? That's the exact opposite of what I'm saying. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #67

One. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #52

If you're defending yourself against the whole U.S. Army you're going to need a shit load. nt Speck Tater Dec 2012 #53

ROFLMAO! Okay! That was funny! Kaleva Dec 2012 #66

Since many seem to have them for the coming showdown with a tyrannical gov Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #54

First I prefer to rephrase the question... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #56

How many bullets? More than you might think. guardian Dec 2012 #62

Going by that data, a .22 caliber handgun is just as good, if not better, then anything else. Kaleva Dec 2012 #68

Not really guardian Dec 2012 #83

Warren Zevon knows Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #63

Tough question krispos42 Dec 2012 #69

87 jeepnstein Dec 2012 #71

i like Marblehead Dec 2012 #76

Since some like to quote Israel ... Historic NY Dec 2012 #77

it's also a theocracy gejohnston Dec 2012 #78

Israel is a lot of things, but it's not in any way a theocracy slackmaster Dec 2012 #79

technically yes gejohnston Dec 2012 #80

Actually thats not true either they serve in the army... Historic NY Dec 2012 #81

looks like I stand corrected gejohnston Dec 2012 #82

You don't need bullets, you need brains. SEMOVoter Dec 2012 #90

You get my vote for best reply. safeinOhio Dec 2012 #101

Exactly my point SEMOVoter Dec 2012 #102

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #97

The arguments about magazine capacity Howzit Dec 2012 #98

Just as many as the police need in their Glocks or SWMP9. L0oniX Dec 2012 #99

We really need a baseline before getting a number. krispos42 Dec 2012 #100

I would like to a see a 5 round limit for magazines - all guns. Dash87 Dec 2012 #103

false choice gejohnston Dec 2012 #104

Reply Dash87 Dec 2012 #105

many nonLE shooters are better trained gejohnston Dec 2012 #106

Being able to shoot a target is only one part of the equation. Dash87 Dec 2012 #107

but if you look at the actual statistics, gejohnston Dec 2012 #108

Reply Dash87 Dec 2012 #109

cool gejohnston Dec 2012 #110

Where I hunt there are packs of feral dogs. iiibbb Dec 2012 #111