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AnotherMcIntosh

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30. Thanks. The Wiki links certainly seem to confirm that certain WW II stories (but not Korean War or
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:58 PM
Jan 2013

Viet Nam experiences where the M1 carbine was also used) were the basis for the occasional stories that GI's from WW II complained about the reported lack of stopping power of the M1 carbine.

My experience includes carrying the M-14 and firing both the M1 and the M1 carbine. Those from WW II who were experienced with the M1 Garand and its 30.06 cartridges could very well find the 7.62 cartridges used by the M1 carbine and the M-14 to be less than optimum. But, of course, the same persons would probably reject the smaller .223 rounds and the M-16 as well.

The WIKI comment appears to be based upon an inadequate sample. If the M1 carbine really lacked stopping power and was widely criticized by GI's for lacking stopping power, the stories should have included complaints from the Korean War and the early Viet Nam War vets that used them. If the 7.62 round is actually inadequate and too small in comparison to the 30.06, the M-14's and the M-16's should never have been adopted. (Howver, if there is a legitimate basis for an experienced shooter to criticize the M1 carbine, it is that they were affected by heat and they had a tendancy to jam. I was able to jam one with a first-time use with less than 20 rounds. It couldn't be freed up until it cooled down. Nothwithstanding the "M1" designation, the mechanism design is different than the M1 Garand.)

I think one will need a combination of all three. Kaleva Jul 2012 #1
Education and proper enforcement of current laws. do away with the war on drugs. Enact a National Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #2
Put the arts music and phys ed back in the schools rrneck Jul 2012 #4
What sort of phys ed do you have in mind? radicalliberal Jan 2013 #9
I love the way you ask a question. rrneck Jan 2013 #12
Branching guns into the gun forum are we? sarisataka Jul 2012 #3
Gun manufactures who make semi-automatics produce a defective product. They should be sued. ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #15
If they make a defective product sarisataka Jan 2013 #20
So, if a car's engine had the power to go 400mph, with a leadfoot on the gas pedal, ... ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #31
As long as it is consistent sarisataka Jan 2013 #32
I own a Honda superbike that will do 180mph+ without breaking a sweat. Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #33
Hence the word 'donorcycle'.... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #37
Absolutely Abq_Sarah Jan 2013 #38
My thoughts virginia mountainman Jul 2012 #5
Can you share a link to the police dogs vs babies? Thanks. n/t TPaine7 Jul 2012 #6
It is unreal... virginia mountainman Jul 2012 #7
That's really scary looking - seems like the dog escaped and went a bit nuts petronius Jul 2012 #8
glorified 22? jimmy the one Jan 2013 #18
At least part of what you say has a scientific basis. What is your source for saying that AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #26
Would you by chance have a cite for... Marengo Jan 2013 #36
1)Tax break/refund for gun safes 2)Free Body Armor for everyone 3)teach guns in schools OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #10
So everybody is supposed to subsidize your hobby? I'd like a taxbreak/refund for new sails flamin lib Jan 2013 #16
Clearly you're not intersted in helping to keep guns more secure and people safer. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #19
I thought you were kidding in post #10. Really, I did. flamin lib Jan 2013 #21
Hey, I'm just following suit... OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #22
Whew! My confidence in rationality is somewhat renewed. I did get a laugh tho . . .nt flamin lib Jan 2013 #23
All three. ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #11
Have you started doing that yet? oneshooter Jan 2013 #13
nice post, Lee Mercer, Jr Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #14
And prove Wayne LaPierre right by seeking to do so Pullo Jan 2013 #17
You're right. Wayne LaPierre, before the AWB, was a low-level functionary in the Democratic Party. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #27
It's a-comin.' See my post below. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #35
My response iiibbb Jan 2013 #24
Graduated Licensees One_Life_To_Give Jan 2013 #25
"the education route has the least risk of controversy"? Just wait until someone points out that AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #28
m1 carbine jimmy the one Jan 2013 #29
Thanks. The Wiki links certainly seem to confirm that certain WW II stories (but not Korean War or AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #30
There is a problem with the education approach... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #34
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