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In reply to the discussion: Assault Weapon Truth [View all]


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24. Did you actually look at the site?
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:16 PM
Jan 2013

If those of you decrying this as a debate of semantics or terminology had actually bothered to look at the site, you would have seen that the quoted portion is the only reference on the site to the difference between assault rifles and "assault weapons." The rest of the site actually goes into a great deal of detail about why so-called "assault weapons" are no deadlier than other semiautomatic firearms.

If your ad hominem reflex won't let you listen to Officer Leroy Pyle, there are plenty of other sources listed.

Questions about pistol grips and recoil are red herrings--those features improve accuracy on assault rifles because they prevent muzzle climb during fully-automatic fire; however, those features have little impact on semiautomatic fire because the muzzle of the gun has time between shots (it only needs a fraction of a second) to fall back into line with the target. Even with a fully-automatic rifle, those features wouldn't be a major factor in a mass shooting scenario because accuracy is not as big an issue at short distances. If your target is ten feet away, your muzzle can climb six inches and still be on target.

On a semiautomatic firearm, a pistol grip simply makes the gun more ergonomic, and low recoil simply makes the gun more comfortable to shoot.

Assault Weapon Truth [View all] Douva Jan 2013 OP
Confusion locks Jan 2013 #1
on average, how many people do you think are killed every day with assault weapons in America? loknar Jan 2013 #3
So...twenty kids in Newtown, CT were just a statistical anomaly....... lastlib Jan 2013 #8
how many people are killed by assault rifles every day? loknar Jan 2013 #10
^ lastlib Jan 2013 #11
"That's all we need to know" Recursion Jan 2013 #22
I am NOT advocating for any law that keeps his gun legal. That's bullshit, and you know it. lastlib Jan 2013 #26
That wasn't an assault weapon Recursion Jan 2013 #12
I bet those kids thought it was--before they DIED!! lastlib Jan 2013 #19
Wow! You reminded me that kids died! That changes everything! Recursion Jan 2013 #20
It wouldn't be legal under MY idea of an assault-weapon ban. lastlib Jan 2013 #27
So tell me your idea of an assault weapon ban. I'm open to ideas Recursion Jan 2013 #28
if it points at you and a bullet comes out, it's an assault weapon. lastlib Jan 2013 #30
Ban all guns? Hasn't worked well for pot Recursion Jan 2013 #31
So just pure, emotional prohibitionism. Callisto32 Jan 2013 #32
If it'll save one child's life, it works for me. lastlib Jan 2013 #36
Oh hey, spam link to NRA sources. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #2
You should forward this to those folks in Newtown, classes resumed today jmg257 Jan 2013 #4
Adam Lanza did no such thing, his AR15 did it all. loknar Jan 2013 #5
It sure helped. After all - isn't that why we all like them so much? jmg257 Jan 2013 #16
I think if we're talking about an AWB, it matters that his AR-15 wasn't an assault weapon Recursion Jan 2013 #13
If we're talking about a new AWB, it'll matter - they'll need to know how to expand the definition, jmg257 Jan 2013 #17
Doesn't help them any, but if discussing possible policy changes, it's helpful to be accurate. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #14
Along with "assault weapons", which his rifle wasn't Recursion Jan 2013 #18
Yes, as defined in the 1994 Comprehensive Assault Weapons Ban. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #21
wolves in sheeps clothing? jimmy the one Jan 2013 #6
I love being a democrat, all except the part about having to be anti-gun. loknar Jan 2013 #7
Evidently you misread some of the billh58 Jan 2013 #35
If it points at you and a bullet comes out, it's an assault weapon. lastlib Jan 2013 #9
So just to be clear ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #15
Here's a hint discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #23
Did you actually look at the site? Douva Jan 2013 #24
Not worried jimmy the one Jan 2013 #25
Are you a liberal Democrat? I see your anti-2A stance (not a good start). What else? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #29
DU, especially the Gungeon billh58 Jan 2013 #33
Thank you so much billh58 Jan 2013 #34
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