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pinboy3niner

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Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:57 AM Jan 2013

Did you expect or demand to be "worshipped" for your service? [View all]

I certainly didn't. In my time you were better off not letting anyone know you served in Vietnam. Because of our VN experience, returning troops today enjoy widespread expressions of public support.

Yet the notion of vets expecting or demanding worship has percolated up in some threads in GD. I won't call out any particular posters, but if you've been following there, you've seen it. In the discussions about troops and vets and their service it has to be about the most horsepuckiest thing I've seen.

The returning vets I see today are embarrassed to be thanked for their service. And when they're thanked by a VN vet they protest, "But we didn't go through what you guys did." And we have to tell them that we only had to do one involuntary tour, and we weren't stop-lossed past our DEROS or ETS.

It's certainly valid to call out blind support for the military, or at least the policies it is assigned to execute and the MIC and the contracts for more military hardware and the neocon machinations for more war. But when that criticism is commingled with attacks on the service of military personnel and vets, many of us have a righteous objection.

Many of the returning vets I see are struggling to survive, and to not do something desperate before that next VA appointment that is months away. They graciously accept our thanks, while knowing that our espressions of support do nothing to help them get the real support they need.

Demanding worship? Hell, some of the vets I see are living under bridges or--dangerously--in culverts where there's a risk of flash floods here.

Of all the criticism of troops and vets, the assertion that they demand to be "worshipped" is one that really chaps my ass. It is an ignorant claim that invariably comes from one who has never served.

What I have is the utmost respect for all of my brother and sister vets who have served--wherever they served--in war or in peace. And my commitment to help, wherever I can, those who are struggling.



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Not in the slightest. I do think we have a few folks here who like to troll and divide on the topic MADem Jan 2013 #1
"We didn't ask to be worshiped, we simply hoped to not get shit upon .." Scuba Jan 2013 #2
Amen, brother, and well said pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #4
True progressives or not, I'll wager they don't know a single servicemember on a personal level. MADem Jan 2013 #7
2 decades active/reserves - and never once expected that DrDan Jan 2013 #3
I hate getting "thanks for your service" it always seems so fake. Katashi_itto Jan 2013 #5
"Thank YOU for your support" usually enables an easy transition to another topic. MADem Jan 2013 #9
I wanted ONE thing. TahitiNut Jan 2013 #6
I hear you, brother pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #8
No. Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #10
It wasn't voluntary and it wasn't worthy of thanks or adoration tularetom Jan 2013 #11
NO 4Q2u2 Jan 2013 #12
it has a lot to do with guilt RedstDem Jan 2013 #13
You're asking the wrong people. TahitiNut Jan 2013 #17
I agree, youre right RedstDem Jan 2013 #18
When duty calls and says you must... msedano Jan 2013 #14
recommended for the use of "horsepuckiest" tavalon Jan 2013 #15
Never sarisataka Jan 2013 #16
Online debating RW Vets during the Iraq invasion/occupation ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #19
I noticed that with a lot of the "pro-war" republican veterans Victor_c3 Jan 2013 #21
And some that do claim combat experience are likely phonies ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #22
Absolutely! There are a LOT of "comic book veterans." TahitiNut Jan 2013 #23
Wow, I had no idea that there weren't more "real" Vietnam vets out there Victor_c3 Jan 2013 #24
none of the vets I know do...and they HATE it... w8liftinglady Jan 2013 #20
Gratitude and admiration are not what's needed ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #25
I think the info is there - one has to spend some time finding it - it is not spoon-fed DrDan Jan 2013 #26
Hopefully, Google is better now than it was 45 years ago. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #27
and where were you in Germany? I was in A.F. at Sembach for 3 years DrDan Jan 2013 #29
Mohringen JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #30
never visited either of those - but sure did enjoy trips to Stuttgart DrDan Jan 2013 #31
Maybe the AF base was called "Echterdingen" JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #32
My brother in law doesn't like all that hero worship shit or Thanks for your Service. glowing Jan 2013 #28
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