Guess I might as well leave DU again

[TigressDem]

14. People like you are the reason I feel like I want to leave, but also the reason I should stay.

I live with a geek. Our firewall doesn't allow me to go to the Twitter links, and others have similar issues.

But it works for you, so we are wrong, bad, stupid or whatever. Thanks for your kind support.

I hardly ask anyone to "agree with me" in fact, if you'd read any of my posts before going on your rampage, you might have seen that for yourself. I literally state that "I am not asking you to ..... " but I do try to find common ground with those who think religion is simply crap, by talking in rational measures. In the past, that has been a good middle ground. I don't try to convert, my request is for simple respect and lately that has been in short supply here.

I think it is strange that as a white woman you would NOT want to educate men about sexism. IF a man is actually in a place to ask the question, it's practically a done deal to get the information out there and how many other women could you have saved from their lack of understanding if you could have lowered yourself to take the time? Even if it doesn't sink in the first time, if the message is given again and again some day it might take root.

My first husband tried to kill me once and then another time tried to beat me up and take our kid. He was a piece of work, but in order to co-parent, I managed to learn to work with him without being a victim or resorting to aggression.

Ironically, in my growing up, I had a lot of guy friends and I thought it was really good to get the perspective from the other camp as learning to know a little bit about how they think helped me be more open and able to deal with people in business for example.

You don't know me from Eve or Adam and yet you can sit there and judge me, wow.

I actually have every reason to HATE black people, but I don't.

When I was 6 years old a 16 year old neighbor boy took me downstairs to get the black baby doll his older sister wanted to give to me to help me have a better racial outlook. With his mother and father, my mother and his sister upstairs, he asked me "to play a game with him" which consisted of him putting his 16 year old cock in my 6 year old vagina. Child abuse or rape, whatever you call it, could have made me think every black person was a sham and all that hype the KKK tries to put out there about black men raping white women was true. Of course, I knew nothing about that stuff then.

What I did know is that 1 person is not the whole race. Each of us are responsible for our own behavior. So I continued to look for the good in people even when I was molested by others twice in the years we remained in that location. The fact that I am at all sane is due to loving parents and people who helped me along the way.

As far as what I "can do" and "do" about the effects of white privilege on black people, I have lots of experience and actually presented ideas for doing things to help the situation and some people responded positively. But I don't have the mindset of someone who would exploit white privilege, so I was asking for MORE to do from people who might know what MORE could be done. And I got blasted from some of them the same way you are calling me a liar when you don't know me at all.

Moving helped me get out of a neighborhood of pedophiles, but as they say "out of the frying pan and into the fire" I wound up in gang neighborhoods where I got jumped by groups of 20 at a time, hit with a 2x4 and had to learn to fight back. When I could rip up enough of the 20 that they decided I was cool, they asked me to join their gang. I sidestepped that and said, "No thanks." I had some good role models that walked the middle line and did not join.

When I talk about "reasonable conversations" again, the goal isn't "conversion" it's simply to set a tone of respect in the conversation. It has been successful in my previous experience here and in person with Atheists, Agnostics, Pagans, Druids, Muslims, Wiccans, Buddhists, and multiple branches of the Christian faith that have a variety of approaches to it. I respect and support other's freedom FROM religion and only ask that they don't lump us all into one pot because that is a blind discrimination.

I follow the example of Christ because it is a very solid moral set of guidelines. If he is really who some say he is, isn't the point as much as what he's advised is a very noble and pragmatic way to live in this world that is full of crazy half the time and tipping over with it at others. So all I ask is that people see the good in that and don't throw Qanan at me just for being a Christian.

You don't have to agree with me. We are DEMs. It's like herding cats and cats are my favorite animal, so I am used to that. I simply try to elevate the conversation to a level of respect for each other because in a Democracy we should be able to have these conversations without having to devolve to virtual brawls. DEMs have to be better than that or we will fail even if we win.