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In reply to the discussion: Ms. Clinton [View all]Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)are people who arguably are among the most brilliant people this world has ever seen.
They both have lived in the South. They both know very well about Lee Atwater tactics. They both have witnessed KKKarl Rove tactics. Rove was a student of Atwater. Atwater was the father of the Southern Strategy.
You are telling me that all the so-called "racially insensitive" statements made were innocent. You want me to believe that neither Bill nor Hillary had a clue what they were suggesting? You are telling me that when Bill, Hillary or any one of their surrogates ran to Bill O'Reilly's show or Rush Limbaugh's show to mock Obama or suggest that his race is the only reason he has made it thus far--they didn't know what they were doing? Really????
Me and many others believe that the Clintons were deliberately playing the race card, knowing fully well that Hillary Clinton was winning in states where whites were refusing to vote for Barack Obama. The voters openly admitted that they would vote for a white woman before a black man. And yet the Clintons and their supporters continued to make "racially insensitive" statements. As they did this, they continued to chip away at Obama's lead and push on in the campaign. Obama would have wrapped up the nomination earlier had it not been for the Rovian efforts and scorched-earth tactics on behalf of the Clintons--this knowing full well that they were actually running out of money. Shameless!!!!
You really want me--and not just other blacks, but many whites who strongly believe that the Clintons and their surrogates were actively exploiting racial tensions--to believe that they didn't realize what they were doing?
You'll have to do more convincing than that.
And honestly, I know many black Americans and a good number of whites and Hispanics who were completely turned off by the Clintons--and to this day may sit out in 2016 due to the racism displayed in 2007-8. Now, mind you, many of these folks I know live in Blue states like me. But many live in down south where I'm originally from. While they many appreciate and even like Bill when we was president, they do not like how Barack Obama has been treated since he's been in office.
If Hillary Clinton becomes the nominee and if she starts making snide comments against Obama and running against his accomplishments in any way, I think she runs the risk of turning off many in the black community--even those who may be a little disappointed in Obama for some reason or another. Even for those who are disappointed in him and/or don't really like him, they also don't really like or trust the Clintons, either.
This is only my view, but I think the majority of Democrats have become more racially intolerant since Obama became president, and have made it known that they don't need blacks, anymore. They believe that they don't need our vote or support anymore. They talk down to us and come to our communities every election season to pacify us. I think it's a huge mistake. I think the Clintons will make a huge mistake if they treat us the same.