African American

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts) Tue Jun 16, 2015, 05:55 PM Jun 2015

This gets so tiresome ... [View all]

Question: Why do Black folks support HRC by such wide margins ... after the terrible treatment in 2008?

(DUer of Color responds to the question)

DUer's Response: "Because they think Bernie is Republican or a Communist."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6846570

My response: "No ... We think he is not speaking to us ... Nor, is he listening to us about our impression that he is not speaking to us."

DUer's response: "His proposals will lift everyone up - can't you see that?" (with a side portion of Bad HRC)

I don't know if it's ignorance, arrogance or what, to think that "I/we don't have to speak to you because we think we speak for everyone."

And I fear, with every passing day, and every ignored sentiment, the benefit of the "ignorance" doubt, will shift farther to the "arrogance or what" camp. That is not how one should approach/woo the African-American vote.

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This gets so tiresome ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 OP

I don't get this either. leftofcool Jun 2015 #1

That's just it ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #4

Absolutely, and that goes for everyone else BainsBane Jun 2015 #5

I at least know I don't get it SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #15

Please see my posts below. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author Nay Jun 2015 #62

Bernie was speaking to African-American civil rights issues back in the 1960s when Hillary JDPriestly Jun 2015 #35

Hillary was 16 years old through most of 1964. Thank you for giving her at least some credit pnwmom Jun 2015 #82

People will feel what ever they do.... daleanime Jun 2015 #2

? leftofcool Jun 2015 #3

Clarify? daleanime Jun 2015 #6

But this does not address the OP's point leftofcool Jun 2015 #7

But that's just it.... daleanime Jun 2015 #10

This is a safe haven group for African American members and their allies BainsBane Jun 2015 #14

Have not denied that right in any fashion.... daleanime Jun 2015 #16

You are placing an artificial division between feelings and views/thinking. BainsBane Jun 2015 #9

And telling people how they should feel..... daleanime Jun 2015 #12

No one is telling you how to feel BainsBane Jun 2015 #13

...... daleanime Jun 2015 #17

Speaking about feelings does not shut down a conversation. kwassa Jun 2015 #18

1+ ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #20

I try to stay out of those threads JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #8

I hear you, 1StrongBlackMan. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #11

Not to mention...these aren't fresh daisies... onpatrol98 Jun 2015 #19

Please see my post 29. Bernie was fighting for African-American civil rights in the 1960s JDPriestly Jun 2015 #32

What I'd like to see. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #51

Yes, they were all just in Las Vegas telling us how azmom Jun 2015 #54

Democrats generally woo the Mexican-American vote, but you I have noticed that no one JDPriestly Jun 2015 #55

Please. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #56

Here it is. I feel certain he will say much more on this. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #61

So would I. Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #57

Damn. Obama didn't even do that. azmom Jun 2015 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Jun 2015 #63

We know. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #66

Hillary is younger than Bernie and was a teenager living with her Republican parents. pnwmom Jun 2015 #83

Speaking for everyone BainsBane Jun 2015 #21

And divisive ... don't forget that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #22

Except that Bernie Sanders was active in the civil rights movement way back when he JDPriestly Jun 2015 #29

This isn't 1963 BainsBane Jun 2015 #33

I understand and apologize if I have offended anyone. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #37

JD, with all due respect, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #43

Yes, the economic primacy idea seems closely aligned with snpsmom Jun 2015 #53

I don't know if you read Jamaal510 Jun 2015 #23

Do you have a link? BainsBane Jun 2015 #24

... Jamaal510 Jun 2015 #25

Thanks BainsBane Jun 2015 #28

I would like to see the quote DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #47

Did you get my PM? BainsBane Jun 2015 #49

There's the arrogance I've been getting at. Bernie & his supporters hold some strange views for.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #77

Doh! Said you were race baiting? Which race, exactly? Getting more surreal all the time here. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #90

Posting a picture of a McGovern rally lead to conclusions of "race baiting" & "hippie punching". Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #91

Oh, that thread was something else... Found it from another by the same author. freshwest Jun 2015 #92

Yes. Saint Ronnie has a lot to answer for, and so does the one-meme-fits-all candidate running for Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #93

But he marched in the March on Washington 50 years ago!!one1! Number23 Jun 2015 #85

Yes, and I've since seen the interview BainsBane Jun 2015 #87

We don't even need to get that far in the weeds... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #46

Ohmygosh: freshwest Jun 2015 #70

I couldn't believe it myself Jamaal510 Jun 2015 #72

I hope this is not true. Would ask a Bernie supporter but after being told we need to "woo" him bettyellen Jun 2015 #75

EDITED. This part was even worse, to me: freshwest Jun 2015 #76

You were told that YOU need to "woo" BainsBane Jun 2015 #88

Do you have a link? JDPriestly Jun 2015 #27

MD, NC, and VA JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #31

I will be watching his sojourn to Las Vegas, tomorrow ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #44

The fact that the early primaries are in mostly white states is a problem. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #50

"Insulting sympathetic white people... Not a good way to get support and votes" bettyellen Jun 2015 #67

Reality bites. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #68

And you still haven't listened to anyone here- or you'd know how ironic your last little lecture bettyellen Jun 2015 #69

You don't need to woo Bernie. He is already won over. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #73

Thanks for the instructions, boss. Not wooing over here today... bettyellen Jun 2015 #74

What policy proposalsl would you like to hear? JDPriestly Jun 2015 #89

Very informative with a sweeping dash of noblesse oblige tossed in for flavor. Number23 Jun 2015 #86

+1. There's that "privelege" thing again. 'If you speak meekly to a cop, he won't shoot you.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #78

Hey! Why didn't POC think of this before? And this is why it's called bettyellen Jun 2015 #79

Bernie immediately responded to the assassinations in South Carolina. I'm sure you saw it JDPriestly Jun 2015 #60

Bernie was among the first to address the police use of excessive force in Ferguson. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #26

The poster didn't say the article said he didn't care about African Americans BainsBane Jun 2015 #30

I'm tired of some of the canned responses JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #38

Are those AAs job ready? JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #36

Clinton is suggesting tax benefits for companies that offer apprenticeships. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #39

What if the trades were taught in high school? JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #40

Thanks. This is an important issue. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #41

Kicking this thread because it needs to be read again and again! leftofcool Jun 2015 #42

I would so love for people to start by reading ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #45

HIStory lesson./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #48

So I hear you are being lectured too, again. Sorry. Or in this case, to some extent, ignored. randys1 Jun 2015 #52

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #58

+1 lovemydog Jun 2015 #64

+1 JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #65

Can I just add my +1 also? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #80

Sorry about that... I feel often that I do that and then delete. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #71

You know that NPR interview with Sanders BainsBane Jun 2015 #81

You know heaven05 Jun 2015 #84