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167. I wouldn't be angry for taking PAC money ...

Reply to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #155)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 11:00 PM

Jul 2015

In fact, I would applaud it, as it would be a sign that he is able to adjust to the realities of circumstance.

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Four ways Martin Luther King Jr. wanted to battle inequality [View all] azmom Jun 2015 OP

He had to get white America to admit that separate toilets were stupid first - and then . . . JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #1

Yes, you are right. azmom Jun 2015 #2

He won't have me - unless he wins the Primary JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #3

I don't know much about O'malley. I'll start azmom Jun 2015 #4

Go to our group here JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #5

But is he taking corporate money? azmom Jun 2015 #6

Here's a top view JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #7

Oh and he's going to have to JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #8

How will the candidate NOT taking corporate money compete ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #10

How much do you think is really needed. Not 2.5 billion? azmom Jun 2015 #12

I don't have a figure; but I know two things ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #18

We Bernie supporters are anticipating a huge fight by the azmom Jun 2015 #21

O.K., but you're going to have to give a little and understand that Bernie may need to take PAC Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #155

I wouldn't be angry for taking PAC money ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #167

Just please don't vote for Hilary azmom Jun 2015 #13

I am undecided. And won't decide until March 21, 2016 (the day before the AZ primary date) ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #19

I missed this post from you before, but I have to say that I am extremely uncomfortable with someone Number23 Jun 2015 #75

I understand completely and I apologize. azmom Jun 2015 #80

Understand, you don't need anyone's permission to do anything positive ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #90

Yes, I see the mistake I made. azmom Jun 2015 #92

Peculiar? No. Racist? YES!! The Clintons were absolutely despicable in 2008. I want my black people Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #157

I really like O'Malley marym625 Jun 2015 #32

Thanks. I'm going to check out the O'Malley group. lovemydog Jun 2015 #14

My former governor. He wasn't perfect. He made some mistakes, but I think he has a better chance... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #154

And LS JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #156

O'Malley? shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #180

TELL IT, girl. TELL IT Number23 Jun 2015 #9

That's interesting. I was taught in school that azmom Jun 2015 #11

I'm from Rochester NY originally JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #16

Lincoln's idea was a sound one and Douglas had met him. They may have wanted to do this: freshwest Jun 2015 #141

Of course MLK was focused on race. And race in the United States encompasses a great many Number23 Jun 2015 #47

I don't think many folks making this argument JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #15

I understand what you are saying, azmom Jun 2015 #20

Re Chavez - are you familiar with Ralph Abernathy? JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #23

If it comes down to O'Malley and Hillary azmom Jun 2015 #24

Girl, I have said that same thing so many times my fingers REFUSE to type it again Number23 Jun 2015 #49

You are right. We need to tackle the social issues. azmom Jun 2015 #88

My concern/fear is that Bernie (and some of his supporters) is/are unable, or unwilling ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #95

Man, I'm going to be chased out of the Bernie azmom Jun 2015 #99

Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #100

Great post, 1SB Number23 Jun 2015 #112

Stuff like this needs to be spoken about in the open. azmom Jun 2015 #116

I could not agree with you more. Number23 Jun 2015 #124

Racism in workers rights movement is legendary. Unions were incredibly racist! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #159

You know that and I know that Number23 Jul 2015 #163

WORD! heaven05 Jun 2015 #59

I didn't get it until now. azmom Jun 2015 #84

Oh boy, you are so getting kicked out of the Sanders group now. bettyellen Jul 2015 #160

Oh noes. I'll be forum less. azmom Jul 2015 #161

Unfortunately the founders there seem to be fixated on hating Hillary (and often, Obama) rather than bettyellen Jul 2015 #162

I just have to high five this post again. Because it is simply that good. Number23 Jun 2015 #111

I'm kind Of done with the nonsense you know? JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #113

That's what I've always seen here too gollygee Jun 2015 #17

Don'tcha know ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #22

Racism is alive and well in DU, no doubt about that. azmom Jun 2015 #25

Yes it is; but that is not what I'm talking about ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #26

Can you explain the concept of "whataboutmeism"? azmom Jun 2015 #27

That would be taking a message about or directed to a specific group ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #28

Ahhhh yes. So in relation to MlK azmom Jun 2015 #29

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #31

I understand now. Did you read my post azmom Jun 2015 #33

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #34

There has to be a way to unite. azmom Jun 2015 #35

He never did JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #30

But that ... who the trash collectors were ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #36

I never knew that. I'm sure many don't. Like azmom Jun 2015 #37

I'm getting a better picture now. Thank you azmom Jun 2015 #38

This is one of the purposes of the AA Group ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #41

Well, I thank you again for azmom Jun 2015 #44

You are correct! JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #40

Truth! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #42

Latinos too. Look what's happening In Arizona. azmom Jun 2015 #69

What part of Arizona are you in? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #73

I live in Queen Creek. Maricopa county. Home of Joe Arpaio. azmom Jun 2015 #82

Ahhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #83

It's still a bit rural and racist as hell. azmom Jun 2015 #85

I was going to say ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #86

It is that. My daughter is 20 and she can't wait azmom Jun 2015 #87

Maybe it's a function of age. Everyone I knew realized those were black sanitation workers, everyone freshwest Jun 2015 #153

The HELL you say! Number23 Jun 2015 #50

hell to the no!!!!! n/t JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #62

thank you heaven05 Jun 2015 #39

In President Obama's powerful, moving eulogy today he said the following... Spazito Jun 2015 #43

Yeah, this here ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #46

I find it difficult not to get frustrated at the lack of understanding... Spazito Jun 2015 #53

I suspect for most it's not ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #56

Yes, good point, I have seen that attitude far too often when discussing this to... Spazito Jun 2015 #58

Socialism, as I understand it, opposes capitalism. azmom Jun 2015 #45

I'm sure that there is someone here azmom Jun 2015 #48

Start here: azmom Jun 2015 #51

Bernie also wants to get money for us by azmom Jun 2015 #55

Is that what he did when he was a mayor? JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #77

I'd like to add NOLALady Jun 2015 #102

That is very powerful. Who wrote that? azmom Jun 2015 #103

Another Wonder by Stevie... NOLALady Jun 2015 #105

Nothing but truth. We have some big fucking problems azmom Jun 2015 #106

You can share this NOLALady Jun 2015 #107

Thank you. azmom Jun 2015 #108

what about racism. heaven05 Jun 2015 #54

He wants to tackle that too. azmom Jun 2015 #61

yeah fine heaven05 Jun 2015 #64

Bernie knows he can lose the black vote over this strategy. azmom Jun 2015 #65

I'm not sticking with anyone heaven05 Jun 2015 #66

It is frustrating. azmom Jun 2015 #81

JAG being a jackass here! JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #79

I think all three have the same position on that. azmom Jun 2015 #94

Then why isn't it on his web site? JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #98

truth heaven05 Jun 2015 #101

The heterosexual white working class male... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #122

The heterosexual white working white male azmom Jun 2015 #125

Barack Obama has won twice without the white working class male-Joe the Dumber Plumber. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #126

Good Point ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #145

I/we should be careful... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #146

True ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #148

There is only one Barack Obama azmom Jun 2015 #127

Can I speak to these things - a few? JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #78

I think all three candidates are talking about the importance azmom Jun 2015 #89

Martin O'Malley has told me specifically what he wants to do JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #96

Someone in this forum posted a great post that says that for many white Americans Number23 Jun 2015 #52

Interesting and rings true heaven05 Jun 2015 #57

No, you have it all wrong. Bernie is a socialist. azmom Jun 2015 #60

Ummm... Spazito Jun 2015 #63

I see what you are saying. azmom Jun 2015 #67

With all due respect, it is a very bad strategy n/t Spazito Jun 2015 #68

Read this, it was in the Bernie Group azmom Jun 2015 #70

Forgive me but I see nothing in the article that is relevent to our discussion... Spazito Jun 2015 #71

You are right. I misread something. azmom Jun 2015 #72

Amen! greatauntoftriplets Jun 2015 #109

Barack Obama has given us a formula to win without the working class white male.. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #123

Barack " the man" is what held azmom Jun 2015 #128

The data suggests elsewise DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #129

I voted for Obama and was looking azmom Jun 2015 #130

All I will say, amiga, is if I was building a coalition... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #131

I would too. That's a great message azmom Jun 2015 #132

If you remember, it was Hillary who was the rock star among Latinos in 2008. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #133

Nothing has been the same since the economy crashed. azmom Jun 2015 #134

Many working class whites believe that... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #135

Real change has been painfully slow. If we can rebuild the coalition, and azmom Jun 2015 #136

He has to win the election first... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #137

It's fucking risky. azmom Jun 2015 #138

And this article is on Bernies BetonBernie site azmom Jun 2015 #139

and you can repeat all those points and make them about poor single moms- or competing with women bettyellen Jul 2015 #164

No we don't BainsBane Jun 2015 #152

You are the only person in this thread talking about Bernie Sanders. Number23 Jun 2015 #74

I am trying to advocate for Bernie. I'm just azmom Jun 2015 #93

why are you talking about Bernie Sanders in reply to that post ? do you think it's ok to be racist JI7 Jun 2015 #76

No. I don't believe anyone should be racist. azmom Jun 2015 #97

and yet you are worried about offending racist whites JI7 Jun 2015 #110

I hate to butt in on a subthread. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #114

You are Union and a socialist, but not azmom Jun 2015 #117

I have a long response about that here: Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #118

You made some valid points. I can respect azmom Jun 2015 #120

Hillary says it BainsBane Jun 2015 #151

Skinner knows more about politics than I do. azmom Jul 2015 #168

Yes, I read Sanders statement BainsBane Jul 2015 #169

I agree with you. There are many factors azmom Jul 2015 #170

Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #171

Apology means JACK without action, and I am not picking on Bernie here, I am picking on randys1 Jul 2015 #172

"He just can't say it in his speeches cause that would alienate the racist Union man, cause ... bettyellen Jul 2015 #166

It's true. I'm latina so i qualify as a POC and I see the same thing. azmom Jun 2015 #91

I hear many white liberals especially make this false claim. It seems as though it absolves them Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #158

WTF NO NO NO he did NOT focus on economic justice AT ALL in comparison to what his life work randys1 Jul 2015 #173

I have to leave for the weekend. I enjoyed talking azmom Jun 2015 #104

Two points... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #115

The whole world is waking up and everyone is becoming more azmom Jun 2015 #119

1917 BainsBane Jun 2015 #140

Democratic socialism is what I seek. azmom Jun 2015 #142

Then don't talking about people being fed up with capitalism BainsBane Jun 2015 #143

yes, if people were serious they would start at lower offices JI7 Jun 2015 #144

+1 JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #150

If I understand you correctly, then yes, a bunch of capitalists (so called liberal whites supporting randys1 Jul 2015 #175

That is not Marx's definition of capitalism BainsBane Jul 2015 #176

That too, my bad, you are right, money off of money and exploiting labor, either way we got randys1 Jul 2015 #177

I'm doing fine BainsBane Jul 2015 #178

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #147

That's an interesting link BB JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #149

And because the FBI paid him to do it. I have NO doubt about that randys1 Jul 2015 #174

Please read this azmom Jun 2015 #121

and go back and read the responses- how many are slamming Obama? Hillary? Maybe half. bettyellen Jul 2015 #165

The slamming of Obama and Holder is really something to behold. randys1 Jul 2015 #179