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shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
16. A couple more points
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 05:46 PM
Aug 2015

Democrats are always less united after a Democratic presidency than a Republican one (think of the factional brawls between Eugene McCarthy and others in 68, or Nader vs Gore after the Clinton administration). This election will be the same.

These have been dry years for black political activists. Typically, presidents need them to connect to the Black community, and to get out the vote when needed. Obama doesn't need anyone to connect him to the Black community, and most Black people would walk through a blizzard to vote for Obama, so he doesn't need them much on that front either. Apparently one of the Seattle disruptors was so desperate for patronage that she tried promoting herself to the Republicans (yeah, good luck with that). Eight years of irrelevance is enough to make anyone hungry.

As I've pointed out before, BLM tried exactly the same stunt with Obama:-

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/03/07/3631178/black-lives-matter-protesters-interrupt-obama-selma/

It ended when some older Black people threatened to kick their arse for heckling Obama. For BLM, getting their arse kicked by Black people is not going to do their activist cred any good. Nor is heckling Republicans. A Republican would simply punch BLM in the face and be immediately rewarded with a 10-point jump in the polls. Consequently, these people are good for friendly fire and precious little else.

A socialist is as much a threat to a black nationalist as to a white nationalist. A black nationalist believes that life is about black vs white, and a white nationalist agrees with him. They might be on opposing sides, but they agree on the narrative. Its a symbiotic relationship, really, and if you spend any time reading black nationalist readings online you soon learn that they have a perverse preference for the white nazi over the white liberal.

The AA member who has tried time and time again BainsBane Aug 2015 #1
Thank you. intheflow Aug 2015 #2
Another white liberal here to correct a misunderstanding. pnwmom Aug 2015 #3
All good points. Thank you. n/t intheflow Aug 2015 #4
Your last point is the one that sticks with me. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #5
Agreed. intheflow Aug 2015 #11
He had a leader of BLM speak in a official capacity at the event before he was trolled Exultant Democracy Aug 2015 #15
Just a thought; but, maybe ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #36
I don't think that this post will get many replies shaayecanaan Aug 2015 #6
Thank you for a thoughtful reply. intheflow Aug 2015 #7
A couple more points shaayecanaan Aug 2015 #16
Correction ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #37
Thank you for the correction. intheflow Aug 2015 #38
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #39
Agreed. intheflow Aug 2015 #41
Yes. I agree that the thought was to ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #42
Yesterday's disruption of Bernie's rally was borne from the failure of Democrats at Netroots... MrScorpio Aug 2015 #8
Many thanks for this. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #9
Thank you so much for this deep and rich response. intheflow Aug 2015 #10
Listen to MrScorpio JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #18
This should be an OP BainsBane Aug 2015 #12
Excellent post! n/t Spazito Aug 2015 #13
That is great Mr. Scorpio. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #14
I simply cannot thank you enough for this post. I think many of us have long since stopped trying Number23 Aug 2015 #17
Great post, thank you so much. n/t emulatorloo Aug 2015 #20
Thank you so much for your explanatory post on why #BlackLiveMatter are doing what they're Cha Aug 2015 #25
Excellent reply. giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #29
MrScorpio! I cannot praise this enough! Struggling to elucidate this, but here it is. Thank you. n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #31
MrScorpio, you should make this an OP n/t irisblue Aug 2015 #19
I could do that, but I don't think that DU is ready for it right now... MrScorpio Aug 2015 #21
"Here I can tell the truth." Which is why this forum has been absolutely BLANKETED with alerts Number23 Aug 2015 #22
You're awesome Scorp. joshcryer Aug 2015 #23
"Their capacity for self-delusion is inexhaustible." Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #24
yeah, I thought it would make a Compelling OP, too.. but, also see why you Cha Aug 2015 #26
This part here is something they should think about: freshwest Aug 2015 #32
Here's a post I ran across on FB from a White Woman.. that attempts to explain Cha Aug 2015 #27
Mahalo to you, Cha. intheflow Aug 2015 #30
What would be the point of going to the GOP? giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #28
Why should any POC or woman or gay go to the GOP? Half the Democratic Party is composed of such. freshwest Aug 2015 #33
Historically, groups protesting injustice have protested the most unjust against their causes. intheflow Aug 2015 #34
We have no point in trying to talk sense into the GOP, giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #35
My son's live's are at stake & their college is already paid for so that's a non issue for me. onpatrol98 Aug 2015 #40
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