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stevenleser

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141. It would be really hard to support Bernie if he were the nominee now.

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 08:07 PM

Aug 2015

He has been way too slow to figure out how to reach out to BLM.

And the fact that his supporters here suddenly don't like vigorous protests when they have supported it in virtually every other situation and have gone out of their way to hide the posts of several African American DU posters here to the point they have gotten lengthy timeouts makes me wonder if I could support Bernie or even vote for him at this point.

The killing and abuse of people of color by police is one of the most pressing problems today. To this point, you can't worry about income inequality if you are dead.

The arrogance and entitlement by far too many Bernie supporters, with him doing nothing to rectify this, makes him an unacceptable candidate and not just in the primary. This is NOT just on DU. Bernie supporters are attacking BLM on Twitter and have been doing so since Netroots.

If I am called to defend Bernie on TV in the future, let's just say that Bernie supporters are not going to like what I have to say.

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So Bravenak was finally shut down [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 OP

Here is the jury results: Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #1

Lots of thin skin on DU. Ugh. nt nc4bo Aug 2015 #4

Very thin skin. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #7

Defensiveness ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #15

Right again, and possibly mixed with repressed guilt Warpy Aug 2015 #169

Can on place an entire Group on one's "Banned Juror" list? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #180

Sadly, it has to be done one at a time Warpy Aug 2015 #184

I use neither, the Banned Juror, nor the Ignore features. I did attempt to trash a group ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #198

I wonder why your trash can popped open Warpy Aug 2015 #199

Or perhaps, require jurors to state a reason for voting to hide a comment. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #201

I post comments frequently Warpy Aug 2015 #211

If someone refers to progressive supporters as white supremacists, what would you expect? still_one Aug 2015 #54

Exactly. There is, or should be, one standard of truth, fairness and decency cheapdate Aug 2015 #105

I served on the jury of another alerted bravenk post GitRDun Aug 2015 #12

That's a well-deserved hide.... truebrit71 Aug 2015 #26

Yup. SoapBox Aug 2015 #41

No, it isn't. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #55

Agree. Also have never heard a white person use the expression "black-ass" anything. Demit Aug 2015 #64

That too. n/t Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #74

Well said. And the fact that this would have to be explained to anyone on DU shows how Number23 Aug 2015 #100

Exactly. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #148

Isn't that the truth. blackspade Aug 2015 #230

It is a white-ass crowd Gman Aug 2015 #80

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #99

Love the outreach.... truebrit71 Aug 2015 #104

We don't do "outreach" in here. And even if we did, you would not be on that list. Number23 Aug 2015 #106

Charming. truebrit71 Aug 2015 #108

Much more than you've ever been to any of us. Number23 Aug 2015 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #103

Someone alerted. FWIW, I voted to leave it. NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #142

I don't see, now that I think of it, SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #150

What I don't get is HOW THE HELL ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #205

Yes, that was beyond nuts. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #210

No it wasn't Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #190

Results LWolf Aug 2015 #206

Thanks for letting me know Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #224

How do jury members know who made the alert? Are they bbgrunt Aug 2015 #52

They don't know the identity of the alerter. n/t GP6971 Aug 2015 #71

they don't know. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #179

Spot on--> "Something isn't right." riversedge Aug 2015 #2

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #3

I have a friend who is black and left of center like me. I would tell him to post here but ... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #5

Did he get kicked out of DU of just have one post hidden? jalan48 Aug 2015 #6

5 or 7 posts hidden... I am not sure... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #8

Thanks, I don't really know the protocol for all of this. jalan48 Aug 2015 #11

Bravenak is outspoken, and I suspect many don't like seeing the truth blatantly exposed by her. George II Aug 2015 #16

I was on one of those juries last night. Purrfessor Aug 2015 #25

if you still have the jury results in your inbox hit alert on them and msanthrope Aug 2015 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author magical thyme Aug 2015 #37

Four posts alerted and hidden within a matter of minutes. I don't think that's due to her "bombast" George II Aug 2015 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author magical thyme Aug 2015 #50

This poster wanted to throw things at Black people and called them "brats" Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #56

not at generic "black people" but the 2 girls who rushed the stage, grabbed the mike and started magical thyme Aug 2015 #67

You're in the African-American forum calling a Black poster bombastic Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #75

Looking at post 75 below JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #87

I'm sorry. I didn't realize where I was until it was pointed out. magical thyme Aug 2015 #91

Don't delete your posts JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #92

sorry. already deleted most of them. magical thyme Aug 2015 #93

Your posts in this thread are disgusting and disruptive. Please do no not return to this thread Number23 Aug 2015 #101

Thank you. Cha Aug 2015 #149

Yeah, she was constantly race nagging Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author magical thyme Aug 2015 #61

Did I use that term? No. She was accused of race nagging. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #73

Yeah I got a hide for pointing out that term and my disgust with it. zappaman Aug 2015 #102

I hate to say this, but DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #78

Regardless of who you support awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #107

Speaking of posting etiquette, brer cat Aug 2015 #83

She's also a group host JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #88

Thank you, JAG. brer cat Aug 2015 #89

She ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #18

She, sorry. jalan48 Aug 2015 #21

I think many people thought Eric Holder was just talking about the right when he said: Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #96

'a nation of cowards' said the man who didnt prosecute a single banker HFRN Aug 2015 #112

And you're certainly free to start your own thread on that. This is AA Group where we discuss issues Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #116

Why do posters feel the need, sheshe2 Aug 2015 #146

You know nothing about all the excellent work Eric Holder did as AG.. so quite acting like you Cha Aug 2015 #159

Another white guy here who doesn't get it... GitRDun Aug 2015 #9

Well stated ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author magical thyme Aug 2015 #39

Yep awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #111

I like Bernie too GitRDun Aug 2015 #115

That's not strange ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #130

This white woman agrees totally mcar Aug 2015 #30

Great post. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #34

+1 n/t Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #60

Oh there is something wrong all right ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #10

A great post. Thank you. ancianita Aug 2015 #20

Well Stated ... I wish I could rec a post ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #24

I could.. ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #28

Thank you! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #32

Excellent, ism. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #147

Well said! Spazito Aug 2015 #45

but probably the same as usual. AlbertCat Aug 2015 #97

What does this post mean? Number23 Aug 2015 #109

I think you & I know. Obviously a call-out. And in a protected group. Go figure. n/t Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #117

No, it means this: ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #161

I've known brave for a NUMBER of years - way before DU. raven mad Aug 2015 #13

This is why Mbrow Aug 2015 #14

I agree-let people speak. jalan48 Aug 2015 #23

Between her and 1SBM, Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #17

What do we want?!? ... Nullification!!! ... When do we want it?!? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #27

DURec. blackspade Aug 2015 #232

The first was for a post made at 9:29 PM, the fourth was posted at 9:36 PM. George II Aug 2015 #29

Willing to bet it was a single alerter. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #31

I won't take that bet. n/t GP6971 Aug 2015 #49

Could well be. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #152

OMG, George. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #144

I was on the jury of one of her posts at 9:20 PM betsuni Aug 2015 #160

There has never been an override of a jury decission. L0oniX Aug 2015 #59

I never said there had been. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #63

They'll never do that. The whole idea of the jury system is to be self regulating without the admins L0oniX Aug 2015 #66

Yes, I know that. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #69

Skinner should not only override the juries, he should end the jury moderation system. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #65

Thanks for posting this. I admire and appreciate bravenak. I'm hate that DU is doing this. ancianita Aug 2015 #19

It's rapidly becoming ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #33

That is some serious bullshit. As was stated above, I learn a lot from her and the other PoC here. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #35

I learn a lot from her and the other PoC here. AlbertCat Aug 2015 #51

thank you. While I appreciated Bravnak's passion and POV, her bbgrunt Aug 2015 #68

+1 senz Aug 2015 #86

too bad.. bravenak spoke the truth.. she was a BS supporter until they turned on Black Activists Cha Aug 2015 #154

Hmmm, I've seen conspiracy theories thrown at the DUers supporting Black Lives Matter... Spazito Aug 2015 #72

These kinds of attacks and even the accusations are often used by the right wing ... AlbertCat Aug 2015 #94

Okay, I see it is all Black Lives Matter's fault... Spazito Aug 2015 #95

Yes....you got it! AlbertCat Aug 2015 #204

LOL... Spazito Aug 2015 #207

This is a safe space for African American posters and allies. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #214

Emotional, screeching, too dumb to find out about Sanders and his positions -- betsuni Aug 2015 #162

why not accuse BLM of having PMS while you're at it. AlbertCat Aug 2015 #203

Yes! "None so blind as those who will not see". Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #118

+1 from top to bottom. n/t bvf Aug 2015 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author bvf Aug 2015 #76

Thank you for this. senz Aug 2015 #85

These idiotic talking points are not welcome here. Contrary to what you and a few others need to Number23 Aug 2015 #113

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2015 #167

black people are FULLY capable of thinking for ourselves. AlbertCat Aug 2015 #200

She (Number23) is a co-host of the group JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #215

I blocked her JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #217

as an older white woman I thought she brought a perspective msanthrope Aug 2015 #36

As another older white woman .... etherealtruth Aug 2015 #42

I always learn from her. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #47

There is structural oppression on DU. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #43

Wow, that's some bullshit hides. zappaman Aug 2015 #44

Of what you speak heaven05 Aug 2015 #46

And now heaven05 is flagged for review! This place is a FUCKING JOKE Number23 Aug 2015 #114

Heaven05 too? You have got to be shittin' me. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #119

Why are you and I still here? We've both been here long enough to see this place sink to uncharted Number23 Aug 2015 #121

And now we're obviously tools of the GOP. I mean it, I read it right here in this thread from a.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #122

Flagged, but only 4 hides, so can't see why. Some reveling in their Power. freshwest Aug 2015 #136

Please do. BainsBane Aug 2015 #163

I thought I did. Should I mail the hosts? I won't post here. The swarm would follow. n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #172

Thanks fresh, and it's good to know there are alternatives. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #175

Although I see that JAG is already putting her plan into action, and it may bring in a lot of AA's freshwest Aug 2015 #176

Sounds like a plan. I don't do Twitter much myself as I also prefer the forum format. n/t Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #177

I do too JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #187

Those "little pups" are so far beyond me technologically, it ain't funny. I have limited patience. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #220

JFC! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #219

The problem is the huge reward for getting posts hidden. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #48

Actually, you make a good point with the "framing" practice. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #133

banned forever? or timeout? I didn't know Bravenak lost posting privledges Sunlei Aug 2015 #53

Her status is listed as GP6971 Aug 2015 #62

A very low percentage of her posts have been hidden in the last 90 days cpwm17 Aug 2015 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author Jester Messiah Aug 2015 #70

This is exactly why I won't serve on a jury Gman Aug 2015 #79

The ugly truth DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #81

Correct. brer cat Aug 2015 #82

Heaven Knows... (VIDEO): freshwest Aug 2015 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Aug 2015 #90

You have a right to dislike her. I categorically reject the fact she was silenced. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Aug 2015 #123

She sure will be seeing as she is a Host in this Group JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #125

You know nothing about her.. yet you act like you do. you see the problem? Cha Aug 2015 #157

Merry Christmas JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #127

Bravenak has been a strong voice for African Americans on DU.. those who can't handle the truth Cha Aug 2015 #156

For the sisters of #BLM, for LiberalStalwart, bravenak and now apparently heaven05 Number23 Aug 2015 #120

many of these loved calling the president a piece of shit. support the rapist assange JI7 Aug 2015 #124

DU's self proclaimed high priests of liberalism JoePhilly Aug 2015 #128

that's a bitter laugh.. "DU's self proclaimed high priests of liberalism.. Cha Aug 2015 #153

All this mcar Aug 2015 #155

And now heaven05 too. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #126

He's flagged for review JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #129

Complete bullshit. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #132

That's why I didn't alert on the snotty words back here JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #134

Sorry I'm replying so slowly, DU is loading like molasses today! Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #140

calling bernie supporters nazis was egregious. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #135

And how are you Warren? Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #138

Well done, Starry Messenger! Cha Aug 2015 #151

Well, I don't like to get negative with posters in here. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #166

I know exactly what you mean.. and in my view you handled it perfectly. Cha Aug 2015 #168

Is it not enough to stifle AA voices Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #139

Well, they have now silenced several African American DUers haven't they? stevenleser Aug 2015 #143

Another voice supporting calling people here nazis. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #178

No, that's not what I said. But while you are at it, see post #174 below. stevenleser Aug 2015 #185

Welcome to the fray. joshcryer Aug 2015 #173

This is a loss for all of DU DemocraticWing Aug 2015 #131

This ceased being a "Democratic board" Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #137

It would be really hard to support Bernie if he were the nominee now. stevenleser Aug 2015 #141

Steven, just give us a heads up before hand so we can all tune in Number23 Aug 2015 #145

"People who screamed for years, "hold Pres Obama's feet to the fire" are now saying.. Cha Aug 2015 #158

I'm so conflicted... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #191

Agreed ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #212

Some of those hides are terrible LittleBlue Aug 2015 #164

How disingenuous to suggest bravenek was shut down because he/she is non-white. Lil Missy Aug 2015 #165

"The same rules apply to everyone. And believe it or not, most people never get any hides! " DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #216

I will respond to my own thread because I am still steaming DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #218

"... And look at those white ass crowds. Just look. slipslidingaway Aug 2015 #170

Bravenak is a dear online friend. lovemydog Aug 2015 #171

Number23 got locked out of this thread for doing host duties. joshcryer Aug 2015 #174

Truth will out every time. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #181

The whole moderation/jury system needs to be changed! ananda Aug 2015 #182

When I learned of this, I went and looked at all of the hidden posts. MineralMan Aug 2015 #183

In other words, Business As Usual by the paid disruptors brought to you by Koch valerief Aug 2015 #186

I doubt that very much. MineralMan Aug 2015 #188

So who's paying the Sarah Palin fan gal? nt valerief Aug 2015 #189

I'm done with this subthread. MineralMan Aug 2015 #192

Sorry, but I'm not trying to be difficult. I just don't get your point. valerief Aug 2015 #193

I would respond in kind but I don't want to get a hide because the jury system is tainted. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #194

Funny, I never look at the group. I usually respond to posts I see in Latest Threads. valerief Aug 2015 #195

This 'paid Koch/Walton disruptor' shtick is getting real old. wyldwolf Aug 2015 #209

Genuine equality activists don't beat on their advocates. nt valerief Aug 2015 #229

Not only that, keep in mind that BLM is literally fighting a life or death campaign. Folks are dying stevenleser Aug 2015 #196

Exactly. On the very anniversary of Michael Brown's MineralMan Aug 2015 #197

exactly Quayblue Aug 2015 #202

To be fair, it's just not PoC being "targeted" ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #213

That's true, too. MineralMan Aug 2015 #221

I saw your OP ... Expect to be "Bravenaked" ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #222

LOL! At my age, it would take true bravery to be naked. MineralMan Aug 2015 #225

... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #226

Bravenak is one of my favorite posters. octoberlib Aug 2015 #208

Can you clear that up a bit? cstanleytech Aug 2015 #223

I was referring to people using the jury system to specifically target people. octoberlib Aug 2015 #227

I thought it tracked who alerts and flags it for review if to many are detected? cstanleytech Aug 2015 #228

Sorry I missed this thread. blackspade Aug 2015 #231

I already miss her voice and want her back. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #233