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JonLP24

(29,929 posts)
28. If I were to guess
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 08:22 AM
Jul 2012

your sample was too small to trust.

Look at exit polls and see the over '50 and who they voted for and the under '50 and who they voted for to get a better idea of "idealism of youth", "urgency of now", and "conservatism that comes with age." From my understanding those that are over '50 have the more positive view of Obama when overall that clearly isn't the case.

As far as your question, I can't answer. To know if Obama is doing what is doing or laying a foundation for what is possible later I couldn't the answer the question with any certainty without guessing his motivations. I rate him based on an issue-by-issue basis, there are issues where he clearly is doing what he only can do(roadblocks by blue dogs and Republicans), issues where he can do more, and issues where he made the wrong decision. As far as ACA, it could lead to better legislation down the road and is better than nothing but wasn't a fan(not because it wasn't single-payer, the requirement to purchase from private insurance firms). I classify ACA as "doing what he can only do" though I felt he could have negotiated it better.

Overall I think he is doing a good job. There are others I'd rather have but from the Big 3 from '08, (Obama, Clinton, and Edwards). I would vote for Obama again.

I noticed a post mentioning DU and generational divide I found interesting. I've noticed a lot of posts saying DU is not representative of the real world which I agree but not for reasons some here might not think. Look at stories that are not political, you'll see wide ranges of opinions that I've found elsewhere. The biggest stories here are often the biggest stories discussed other places online or on network news. How DUers generally feel about the stories are similar to those in the real world. Obviously stories w/ a political bent will get an overall different reaction here than the real world.

I think the major areas DU is not representative of is primarily the younger crowd & non-whites based on non-scientific polls conducted here. When it comes to how DU compares to the real world referencing younger people, you won't find many posts here that deal w/ hobbies & interests that today's youth are currently interested in. Such as video games, current musical artists, & shows targeted for the demographic.

If you're curious, I'm under 30, some college, & dirt poor.


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Sorry ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #1
Thanks for a very interesting post! elleng Jul 2012 #3
Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #8
I think having the Presidency, the Senate (with 60 votes) and the House Indydem Jul 2012 #2
Where does 'we could have had the whole enchilada' come from, exactly? elleng Jul 2012 #4
I do not know. Indydem Jul 2012 #5
'Encilada' from Herb Kalmbach, talking on the phone to Nixon’s assistant John Erlichmann. elleng Jul 2012 #6
It wasn't Obama's failure, it was a conservative Congress's failure Warpy Jul 2012 #7
Exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #12
If you don't mind answering ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #9
1981 n/t Indydem Jul 2012 #13
Seems to support the generational divide theory, Huh? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #15
Indeed Indydem Jul 2012 #16
I wouldn't say that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #17
those who never went through the hard struggles of these movements SemperEadem Aug 2012 #29
+1,000,000 ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #30
Maybe realism comes with age. n/t mzteris Jul 2012 #18
First ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #10
Their is no way to know what Obama might or might not have accomplished....... wandy Jul 2012 #11
I'm 39 JustAnotherGen Jul 2012 #14
Obama does play the long game .... kwassa Jul 2012 #19
My legal background ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #21
And JustAnotherGen Jul 2012 #25
That's ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #27
Part of his long game is HOW he conducts himself. kwassa Jul 2012 #26
I think your thesis is right on the money. MADem Jul 2012 #20
This is a fantastic argument, 1SBM Number23 Jul 2012 #22
I guess you're right ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #23
"I guess I never really consider DU representative of anything approaching my real world." Number23 Jul 2012 #24
If I were to guess JonLP24 Jul 2012 #28
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