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Spazito

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108. As to your question on the necessity for forethought, it is key, imo...

Wed Aug 12, 2015, 06:07 PM

Aug 2015

I've actually participated in planning meetings where the goal is to look at the proposed responses from the candidate and come up with the worst case scenario as to them being misunderstood, misused, etc. You put yourself in the shoes of both those you want to convince to support your candidate and those who oppose and see what is the worst thing that can happen. You plan for vocal opposition, in some cases even hope for it at public meetings because, if you/your candidate is well prepared that opposition can actually help you clarify your message, see the holes in your message, etc.

A smart campaign plans for both the immediate and the longer term when it comes to responding during the campaign. ' What will come back to bite me in the ass?' kind of planning.

Watching President Obama speak during a time of unrest, concern is a lesson on how to actually switch within one's 'head' to the 'worst case scenario' mode as he chooses his words. He is a master at it, imo.

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#BlackLivesMatter More Than the Hurt Feelings of White Progressives� [View all] MrScorpio Aug 2015 OP

Great Op, Mr Scorpio. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author cascadiance Aug 2015 #2

But he's winning New Hampshire! New FREAKING Hampshire!11 Number23 Aug 2015 #3

LOL Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #12

New FRAKING Hampshire!!1 Surely that will put to rest the idea that he's not appealing to minorities Number23 Aug 2015 #27

Yep, just like Nate Silver said could happen... DonViejo Aug 2015 #70

Yeah and did you see all the people calling Nate Freaking Silver a "Hillary plant" and a liar in GDP Number23 Aug 2015 #104

Thank you ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #4

It's a real problem. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #5

Kick sheshe2 Aug 2015 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author PADemD Aug 2015 #7

Worse than actual racism? Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #8

Question: dgibby Aug 2015 #11

I honestly don't have a great answer. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #13

Thanks so much. dgibby Aug 2015 #21

Look directly under the tabs on top after clicking on post Person 2713 Aug 2015 #26

Thanks. Will do. n/t dgibby Aug 2015 #28

This is the best explanation of the idiots who have sufrommich Aug 2015 #9

I see a lot of invective, but little analysis or substance. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2015 #10

The same could easily be said of GDP this week. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #14

All you have to do is take a look at DU. murielm99 Aug 2015 #17

It doesn't mattter how you see it.. it's from the view of a Black Woman and aimed at those who Cha Aug 2015 #19

I see what you want/allow yourself to see ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #84

"But do you know what else is irrational? The behavior of Sanders� fanatical supporters in response Cha Aug 2015 #15

Actually, Bernie's response was the perfect way to handle the Hi-Jacking of a Political Rally. bvar22 Aug 2015 #101

"Sanders supporters entertaining conspiracy theories about the #BlackLivesMatter movement being Cha Aug 2015 #113

Are you attempting to respond to me? bvar22 Aug 2015 #116

"#BlackLivesMatter More Than the Hurt Feelings of White Progressives" Cha Aug 2015 #118

C'mon bvar. Do you really feel the need to be in here? Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #125

Well, if all you want is an echo chamber, bvar22 Dec 2015 #136

Um, was there a reason you felt the need to reply to this 4 months later? Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #137

At least the bumped up an awesome OP - sigh JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #139

Love! Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #140

2nd request from a group host to go away JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #138

There has NEVER been a time here "when color, race, or gender made no difference." pnwmom Dec 2015 #142

Funny ... I was thinking the same thing ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #145

He was the KEYNOTE SPEAKER who hadn't delivered his speech. His response pnwmom Dec 2015 #141

Tons and tons of resentment on the part of certain people toward the AfAm randys1 Dec 2015 #144

K & R Iliyah Aug 2015 #16

It's just wierd killbotfactory Aug 2015 #18

Then this isn't directed at you. This OP is from a BLack Woman's view and what been happening Cha Aug 2015 #25

The crowd was mad because the protesters were antagonizing them killbotfactory Aug 2015 #78

they were yelling taze them at AA girls wanting 4 1/2 minutes of silence for Mike Brown. Cha Aug 2015 #79

All the crowd knew is that their event was being disrupted killbotfactory Aug 2015 #81

The crowd didn't want to hear about black lives--they screamed at those young women. MADem Aug 2015 #91

Do you think the crowd would have reacted that way... killbotfactory Aug 2015 #97

"#BlackLivesMatter More Than the Hurt Feelings of White Progressives" Cha Aug 2015 #119

It's just all so incredibly stupid. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2015 #29

Bye. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #30

'why is there a narrative arising after this that's pitting white progressives vs black progressives HFRN Aug 2015 #54

White progressives? JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #56

I was thinking more about Sander's political competition nt HFRN Aug 2015 #58

I don't see how this benefits O'Malley or Webb? JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #60

keep going nt HFRN Aug 2015 #61

I beg your pardon? Keep going at what? JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #63

I said 'his political competition', and you asked 'Omalley, Webb' HFRN Aug 2015 #64

eh - no - I disagree - JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #65

Maybe simply stating your premise without playing games would better serve you. LanternWaste Aug 2015 #134

I think this is a big part of it. BS has attracted a Libertarian (aka Republican) element that.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #20

The author makes a similar comment. Noting the similarities betwen Bernie's and Rand Paul''s Number23 Aug 2015 #31

They've obviously invested heavily a meme generator. The new one is that BS is old, frail & Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #74

I have to say when I read the posts about his age and frail condition my jaw literally dropped... Spazito Aug 2015 #83

If an adversary had broached his age, the post would be hidden. But to have his "supporters" invoke Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #86

It is definitely the wrong approach if one is defending a candidate, imo! Spazito Aug 2015 #88

That behavior is here at DU in a form, too GitRDun Aug 2015 #22

Sander's supporters should look to HRC's supporters as role models of tolerance of criticism HFRN Aug 2015 #53

No GitRDun Aug 2015 #90

There's a paper linked in that article called "The White Space": joshcryer Aug 2015 #23

K&R betsuni Aug 2015 #24

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #32

You're in the wrong place at the wrong time. MrScorpio Aug 2015 #33

FYI Princess Turandot Aug 2015 #34

Can't believe three people thought that disgusting crap was okay. betsuni Aug 2015 #38

that post was Despicable.. Glad it got a hide.. excellent alert message.. thank you, alerter! Cha Aug 2015 #35

4-3 hide. joshcryer Aug 2015 #37

I know exactly what you mean, josh.. Cha Aug 2015 #39

1strngblkman made that point in another thread. joshcryer Aug 2015 #40

Aww, that's so nice and kind.. see I knew. Cha Aug 2015 #42

OMG Cha! joshcryer Aug 2015 #43

LOl, I'll tell you how I know.. but you can't tell anybody, josh.. Cha Aug 2015 #46

Cha!! Happy early bday! joshcryer Aug 2015 #47

Jury just left a post calling Black posters brain damaged Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #49

I alerted as well as posted to the racist pos. Wow Juror #2? What's wrong with them.. Cha Aug 2015 #50

Thanks Cha, I saw your reply at the thread too. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #52

And, why should they pretend?.. they know they can get away with this free for all .. except for us. Cha Aug 2015 #67

Juror #2 to Rosa Parks.... DonViejo Aug 2015 #71

Really, Don. Apt analogy.. you don't condone and let racism slide because Cha Aug 2015 #72

Nailed it JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #73

Geez, if this doesn't fucking prove the jury system is broken beyond repair... Spazito Aug 2015 #51

It's borked. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #59

Yes, removing posters from the jury pool for their unbelievably ugly comments is a good thing but... Spazito Aug 2015 #66

I know he said that but a lot of jury comments like this are left standing. totodeinhere Aug 2015 #77

If a black person not supporting Sanders is brain damaged then they are disturbed right? JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #55

Hahaha. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #57

Starry, don't forget the guy who referred to the #BLM protestors as "subhuman" Number23 Aug 2015 #112

They got called Nazis and fascists yesterday too. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #115

Good OP Gothmog Aug 2015 #36

Big Amen and K&R BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #41

Excellent read Gman Aug 2015 #44

I could not agree more, especially this part: OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #45

K&R mcar Aug 2015 #48

Bernie jazzwinders Aug 2015 #62

The volunteers, supporters of a candidate ARE the 'face' of the candidate... Spazito Aug 2015 #68

Spoken like someone who has actually been involved in a campaign ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #93

I have, many of them at various levels and the training for both staff and volunteers... Spazito Aug 2015 #95

Again, from my experience ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #96

Internet advocacy is even more fraught with 'danger' for campaigns, imo... Spazito Aug 2015 #98

As a DUer (SMessenger) observed ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #105

As to your question on the necessity for forethought, it is key, imo... Spazito Aug 2015 #108

Ahhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #110

LOL, love your solution! Spazito Aug 2015 #111

exactly BainsBane Aug 2015 #120

Yes, it's not the base that needs convincing, they are already on board... Spazito Aug 2015 #121

This is sickening, offensive and should not be happening on DU. I am ashamed of decision to leave Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #69

Mission accomplished! noiretextatique Aug 2015 #75

The "Seattle disruptors" ARE BLM. nt Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #87

As a Sanders supporter I am heartbroken over this. totodeinhere Aug 2015 #76

Kick and rec; beautifully written by Imani Gandy. emulatorloo Aug 2015 #80

Damnnn!!!! ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #82

Good Advice! Cha Aug 2015 #85

Agree, I must ashamedly admit I did not go to the link and read the whole article until... Spazito Aug 2015 #89

This is an excellent piece of commentary. Read the entire thing! kwassa Aug 2015 #92

Two things ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #94

LOL, so true. lovemydog Aug 2015 #100

I finally got a chance to read the whole article too. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #99

Precisely, SM. lovemydog Aug 2015 #102

I love your sig line! Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #103

Haha, thanks. lovemydog Aug 2015 #106

Well said, lmd. "There ain't no going back." Number23 Aug 2015 #114

I hope so too Number23. lovemydog Aug 2015 #117

That is going to be a problem ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #107

It's already happening though, I think. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #109

And we're still working on "decentering male." n'/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #143

K&R - Message Received nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #122

I agree with Imani Gandy Martin Eden Aug 2015 #123

Good thing she relented and came to her senses, right? MrScorpio Aug 2015 #124

She made a lot of sense throughout the post Martin Eden Aug 2015 #128

Ms. Gandy was pitch perfect throughout the entire piece... MrScorpio Aug 2015 #129

Thank you for the long, thoughtful reply Martin Eden Aug 2015 #133

+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Aug 2015 #126

KnR Hekate Aug 2015 #127

kick for truth Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #130

Kick & Recommended. William769 Aug 2015 #131

Thank you, MrScorpio! calimary Aug 2015 #132

thank you for this arithia Aug 2015 #135