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MrScorpio

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129. Ms. Gandy was pitch perfect throughout the entire piece...
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 05:22 AM
Aug 2015

She laid out a comprehensive, step-by-step analysis of the issue, including documented links which imparted concrete validity to every single thing she outlined. That's the consensus of members of this group, be they POC or Non-POC.

From the beginning, going back to the first moment that Democrats were challenged on their positions, or lack of positions and policy proposals needed to abolish white supremacy in this country, as a strategy to save black lives, it was crystal clear that both Sanders and O'Malley were both ill-prepared and some-what unwilling to address the black women who had confronted them at that moment.

Well, neither of them are perfect, thus it was established that both candidates and campaigns had plenty of room for improvement. That's not a problem for either party, it's just the way it is. Some may not have liked the way in which these black women employed their own tactics, however, anyone coming from a position of privilege has absolutely no right whatsoever to criticize how and when those in disadvantaged positions choose to seek their own liberation.

If anything, the virulently negative reaction of Sanders' mostly white supporters was indicative of the fact that they regarded the BLM protesters' concerns, not from those of black people calling out for justice and an end to having our blood spilled in the streets at the hands of mostly white police, but rather than from their own white racial experiences and perspectives. Simply because such a concern would weigh more heavier and elicit more of a sense urgency with black people than it would with mostly white liberal crowds, right? Of course! Those black women are not living within a cocoon of white normality, free to only dabble in addressing racial injustice at will and they have no obligation whatsoever to protect it. Their reality is one in which black lives are snuffed out every single day. For them, the name of Sandra Bland has special meaning… And that's not the only name indeed.

It was also quite clear that those mostly white liberal crowds were incensed that the very subject of racial injustice was brought up at all. And of course, with that sort of crowd, a hostile reaction should have been expected. After all, we all live within a society defined by and for the benefit of white supremacy, it's always been that way. Under such a system, discussions about racial injustice are normally regarded as taboo subjects.

In your mention of "sides," each with their own group dynamics, on one side, it should be noted that we had a small group of passionate and intelligent black women advocating for an end to racial injustice on one end and on the other, (those who were screaming invectives at these women), we had people who'd rather do what they can to protect their own sense of privilege and entitlement rather than listen what was said to them. The first and foremost concern of those black women was not that of protecting the feelings of the mostly white liberals screaming at them, demanding that they be tased, as what happened in Seattle. Their main concern was that of black lives.

Most whites in this country, unfortunately, are woefully illiterate in terms of discussing race. These aren't my words, they're those of a white woman who has taken the time and effort to explain why that's the case. http://www.salon.com/2015/04/10/white_americas_racial_illiteracy_why_our_national_conversation_is_poisoned_from_the_start_partner/

White supremacy in this country is the responsibility of its white beneficiaries. A small group of passionate, intelligent and defiant black women can make demands, even on the most liberal candidate of the bunch, but it will not end white supremacy and privilege, and even if this candidate is offered up as the most ideal by his or her fervent supporters. But the most important point is, in spite of the inability of these black women to abolish white supremacy and regardless of all of the hostility heaped upon them by such a candidate's supporters, we are now discussing this very matter. Sanders, at the behest of those black women, and in spite of his own supporters, has taken steps to make his own campaign address the issue.

All-in-all, the tactics were both worthwhile and effective for all involved. The party has been urged to do something about systemic white supremacy, which has cost so many black lives in this country, now they will be expected to do more than to offer lip service. It's about time that issues surrounding racial injustice finally become centered around POC of color. No amount of invective from angry crowds of white liberals or even conservatives will force these issues back into insignificance. If we had only listened to the candidate supporters and had repressed the voices of black women calling out the names of those lost to racial injustice, we most certainly would not have imparted as much importance and urgency onto the matter as we have now.

The candidates and the party have made a proper correction, bending towards justice. It's about time that their most loyal and active supporters do the exact same.









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Great Op, Mr Scorpio. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author cascadiance Aug 2015 #2
But he's winning New Hampshire! New FREAKING Hampshire!11 Number23 Aug 2015 #3
LOL Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #12
New FRAKING Hampshire!!1 Surely that will put to rest the idea that he's not appealing to minorities Number23 Aug 2015 #27
Yep, just like Nate Silver said could happen... DonViejo Aug 2015 #70
Yeah and did you see all the people calling Nate Freaking Silver a "Hillary plant" and a liar in GDP Number23 Aug 2015 #104
Thank you ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #4
It's a real problem. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #5
Kick sheshe2 Aug 2015 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author PADemD Aug 2015 #7
Worse than actual racism? Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #8
Question: dgibby Aug 2015 #11
I honestly don't have a great answer. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #13
Thanks so much. dgibby Aug 2015 #21
Look directly under the tabs on top after clicking on post Person 2713 Aug 2015 #26
Thanks. Will do. n/t dgibby Aug 2015 #28
This is the best explanation of the idiots who have sufrommich Aug 2015 #9
I see a lot of invective, but little analysis or substance. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2015 #10
The same could easily be said of GDP this week. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #14
All you have to do is take a look at DU. murielm99 Aug 2015 #17
It doesn't mattter how you see it.. it's from the view of a Black Woman and aimed at those who Cha Aug 2015 #19
I see what you want/allow yourself to see ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #84
"But do you know what else is irrational? The behavior of Sanders’ fanatical supporters in response Cha Aug 2015 #15
Actually, Bernie's response was the perfect way to handle the Hi-Jacking of a Political Rally. bvar22 Aug 2015 #101
"Sanders supporters entertaining conspiracy theories about the #BlackLivesMatter movement being Cha Aug 2015 #113
Are you attempting to respond to me? bvar22 Aug 2015 #116
"#BlackLivesMatter More Than the Hurt Feelings of White Progressives" Cha Aug 2015 #118
C'mon bvar. Do you really feel the need to be in here? Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #125
Well, if all you want is an echo chamber, bvar22 Dec 2015 #136
Um, was there a reason you felt the need to reply to this 4 months later? Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #137
At least the bumped up an awesome OP - sigh JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #139
Love! Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #140
2nd request from a group host to go away JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #138
There has NEVER been a time here "when color, race, or gender made no difference." pnwmom Dec 2015 #142
Funny ... I was thinking the same thing ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #145
He was the KEYNOTE SPEAKER who hadn't delivered his speech. His response pnwmom Dec 2015 #141
Tons and tons of resentment on the part of certain people toward the AfAm randys1 Dec 2015 #144
K & R Iliyah Aug 2015 #16
It's just wierd killbotfactory Aug 2015 #18
Then this isn't directed at you. This OP is from a BLack Woman's view and what been happening Cha Aug 2015 #25
The crowd was mad because the protesters were antagonizing them killbotfactory Aug 2015 #78
they were yelling taze them at AA girls wanting 4 1/2 minutes of silence for Mike Brown. Cha Aug 2015 #79
All the crowd knew is that their event was being disrupted killbotfactory Aug 2015 #81
The crowd didn't want to hear about black lives--they screamed at those young women. MADem Aug 2015 #91
Do you think the crowd would have reacted that way... killbotfactory Aug 2015 #97
"#BlackLivesMatter More Than the Hurt Feelings of White Progressives" Cha Aug 2015 #119
It's just all so incredibly stupid. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2015 #29
Bye. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #30
'why is there a narrative arising after this that's pitting white progressives vs black progressives HFRN Aug 2015 #54
White progressives? JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #56
I was thinking more about Sander's political competition nt HFRN Aug 2015 #58
I don't see how this benefits O'Malley or Webb? JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #60
keep going nt HFRN Aug 2015 #61
I beg your pardon? Keep going at what? JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #63
I said 'his political competition', and you asked 'Omalley, Webb' HFRN Aug 2015 #64
eh - no - I disagree - JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #65
Maybe simply stating your premise without playing games would better serve you. LanternWaste Aug 2015 #134
I think this is a big part of it. BS has attracted a Libertarian (aka Republican) element that.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #20
The author makes a similar comment. Noting the similarities betwen Bernie's and Rand Paul''s Number23 Aug 2015 #31
They've obviously invested heavily a meme generator. The new one is that BS is old, frail & Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #74
I have to say when I read the posts about his age and frail condition my jaw literally dropped... Spazito Aug 2015 #83
If an adversary had broached his age, the post would be hidden. But to have his "supporters" invoke Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #86
It is definitely the wrong approach if one is defending a candidate, imo! Spazito Aug 2015 #88
That behavior is here at DU in a form, too GitRDun Aug 2015 #22
Sander's supporters should look to HRC's supporters as role models of tolerance of criticism HFRN Aug 2015 #53
No GitRDun Aug 2015 #90
There's a paper linked in that article called "The White Space": joshcryer Aug 2015 #23
K&R betsuni Aug 2015 #24
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #32
You're in the wrong place at the wrong time. MrScorpio Aug 2015 #33
FYI Princess Turandot Aug 2015 #34
Can't believe three people thought that disgusting crap was okay. betsuni Aug 2015 #38
that post was Despicable.. Glad it got a hide.. excellent alert message.. thank you, alerter! Cha Aug 2015 #35
4-3 hide. joshcryer Aug 2015 #37
I know exactly what you mean, josh.. Cha Aug 2015 #39
1strngblkman made that point in another thread. joshcryer Aug 2015 #40
Aww, that's so nice and kind.. see I knew. Cha Aug 2015 #42
OMG Cha! joshcryer Aug 2015 #43
LOl, I'll tell you how I know.. but you can't tell anybody, josh.. Cha Aug 2015 #46
Cha!! Happy early bday! joshcryer Aug 2015 #47
Jury just left a post calling Black posters brain damaged Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #49
I alerted as well as posted to the racist pos. Wow Juror #2? What's wrong with them.. Cha Aug 2015 #50
Thanks Cha, I saw your reply at the thread too. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #52
And, why should they pretend?.. they know they can get away with this free for all .. except for us. Cha Aug 2015 #67
Juror #2 to Rosa Parks.... DonViejo Aug 2015 #71
Really, Don. Apt analogy.. you don't condone and let racism slide because Cha Aug 2015 #72
Nailed it JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #73
Geez, if this doesn't fucking prove the jury system is broken beyond repair... Spazito Aug 2015 #51
It's borked. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #59
Yes, removing posters from the jury pool for their unbelievably ugly comments is a good thing but... Spazito Aug 2015 #66
I know he said that but a lot of jury comments like this are left standing. totodeinhere Aug 2015 #77
If a black person not supporting Sanders is brain damaged then they are disturbed right? JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #55
Hahaha. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #57
Starry, don't forget the guy who referred to the #BLM protestors as "subhuman" Number23 Aug 2015 #112
They got called Nazis and fascists yesterday too. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #115
Good OP Gothmog Aug 2015 #36
Big Amen and K&R BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #41
Excellent read Gman Aug 2015 #44
I could not agree more, especially this part: OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #45
K&R mcar Aug 2015 #48
Bernie jazzwinders Aug 2015 #62
The volunteers, supporters of a candidate ARE the 'face' of the candidate... Spazito Aug 2015 #68
Spoken like someone who has actually been involved in a campaign ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #93
I have, many of them at various levels and the training for both staff and volunteers... Spazito Aug 2015 #95
Again, from my experience ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #96
Internet advocacy is even more fraught with 'danger' for campaigns, imo... Spazito Aug 2015 #98
As a DUer (SMessenger) observed ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #105
As to your question on the necessity for forethought, it is key, imo... Spazito Aug 2015 #108
Ahhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #110
LOL, love your solution! Spazito Aug 2015 #111
exactly BainsBane Aug 2015 #120
Yes, it's not the base that needs convincing, they are already on board... Spazito Aug 2015 #121
This is sickening, offensive and should not be happening on DU. I am ashamed of decision to leave Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #69
Mission accomplished! noiretextatique Aug 2015 #75
The "Seattle disruptors" ARE BLM. nt Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #87
As a Sanders supporter I am heartbroken over this. totodeinhere Aug 2015 #76
Kick and rec; beautifully written by Imani Gandy. emulatorloo Aug 2015 #80
Damnnn!!!! ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #82
Good Advice! Cha Aug 2015 #85
Agree, I must ashamedly admit I did not go to the link and read the whole article until... Spazito Aug 2015 #89
This is an excellent piece of commentary. Read the entire thing! kwassa Aug 2015 #92
Two things ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #94
LOL, so true. lovemydog Aug 2015 #100
I finally got a chance to read the whole article too. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #99
Precisely, SM. lovemydog Aug 2015 #102
I love your sig line! Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #103
Haha, thanks. lovemydog Aug 2015 #106
Well said, lmd. "There ain't no going back." Number23 Aug 2015 #114
I hope so too Number23. lovemydog Aug 2015 #117
That is going to be a problem ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #107
It's already happening though, I think. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #109
And we're still working on "decentering male." n'/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #143
K&R - Message Received nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #122
I agree with Imani Gandy Martin Eden Aug 2015 #123
Good thing she relented and came to her senses, right? MrScorpio Aug 2015 #124
She made a lot of sense throughout the post Martin Eden Aug 2015 #128
Ms. Gandy was pitch perfect throughout the entire piece... MrScorpio Aug 2015 #129
Thank you for the long, thoughtful reply Martin Eden Aug 2015 #133
+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Aug 2015 #126
KnR Hekate Aug 2015 #127
kick for truth Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #130
Kick & Recommended. William769 Aug 2015 #131
Thank you, MrScorpio! calimary Aug 2015 #132
thank you for this arithia Aug 2015 #135
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