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114. Yes, this process didn't just happen overnight with a few friends over beer.

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:12 PM

Aug 2015

There's lots of granular information on the website that goes into greater detail. There are also other organizations coming out of BLM that will take up different pieces of the racism in the "justice industrial complex."

That tumblr that Mr. Scorpio posted seems even more apt today: http://www.democraticunderground.com/118723579
with the addendum to the final piece being, "Black people: We came up with goals from our process of grassroots work." "White people: Ok. We thought of how you could do this better."

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#BlackLivesMatter: Activists come up with a plan to end police killings. Here it is. [View all] Starry Messenger Aug 2015 OP

This will probably end in some interesting self-selection of police. They've libdem4life Aug 2015 #1

Exactly. They don't understand the meaning of "public SERVANT." senz Aug 2015 #10

Some of this escalated with the military guys coming back and being libdem4life Aug 2015 #15

What libdem4life said ! BlueJazz Aug 2015 #35

Thank you. I don't think American lives are worth more than others, libdem4life Aug 2015 #100

Military vets with massive PTSD coming back home to serve in the police ... nikto Aug 2015 #54

Ferguson was the first televised operation. There have been others. libdem4life Aug 2015 #97

It would have to depend on how many shootings were from yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #108

Are there even any stats available on that? nikto Aug 2015 #120

True. All that military equipment tells them they're at war senz Aug 2015 #81

I mean with all those war toys, what could possible go wrong? libdem4life Aug 2015 #98

I've thought this exact thing in my own mind - needs to be said out loud more. northoftheborder Aug 2015 #96

Many think it's the beginning of the police occupation of the US. libdem4life Aug 2015 #99

I don't find myself in that line of thought. northoftheborder Aug 2015 #119

Perhaps you did not see Ferguson and the hundreds of stories of police killing unarmed citizens. libdem4life Aug 2015 #121

Here's the ten-point plan lovemydog Aug 2015 #2

Looks great. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #3

Excellent. Made the pledge. lovemydog Aug 2015 #4

Same to you! Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #5

Pledged. Thanks for the link. nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #13

I made the pledge but was trying to find out if one of the provisions was for . . . brush Aug 2015 #58

I don't know, sorry. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #59

I think I'll try to contact this group of organizers and make this suggestion if . . . brush Aug 2015 #64

please do NJCher Aug 2015 #71

Will do. nt brush Aug 2015 #79

I had the same idea only with mandatory liability insurance on each officer like nurses have. classykaren Aug 2015 #90

Good point brush Aug 2015 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Aug 2015 #107

Pledged and sent to 50 friends ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #122

That's fantastic! Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #123

Thanks. The LATimes didn't list the points. senz Aug 2015 #9

And they need training for how to handle the mentally ill too passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #74

They do. There are techniques, dos and don'ts, not all of which are intuitive. senz Aug 2015 #82

Bernie has already mentioned most of those. All of this and more needs to be done! nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #16

Good. Martin O'Malley has already mentioned them too, lovemydog Aug 2015 #20

I already did the pledgeg. This is an issue close to my heart and I have been fighting Live and Learn Aug 2015 #87

Good list, although it's not in order of importance. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #22

Thanks for the link to campain zero, sheshe2 Aug 2015 #23

You're welcome sheshe2. lovemydog Aug 2015 #25

Yuuuum! Serious spaghetti indeed! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #28

That's awesome. Thanks for pulling that bit out! Number23 Aug 2015 #29

You're welcome mi amiga. lovemydog Aug 2015 #52

Mahalo lovemydog for the link to joincampaignzero~ SOLUTIONS! It's a brilliant plan and Cha Aug 2015 #43

Absolutely Cha. lovemydog Aug 2015 #53

Lol I like this one a lot. ncjustice80 Aug 2015 #70

YES! passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #75

In poster form. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2015 #50

Thank you DinahMoeHum! lovemydog Aug 2015 #55

Very good... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #60

Really good point MMM. lovemydog Aug 2015 #62

I'll make a suggestion... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #65

Great suggestion. lovemydog Aug 2015 #66

I would like that they quit shooting pets also. glinda Aug 2015 #63

I'm with you here passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #77

Some great ideas. ncjustice80 Aug 2015 #69

Maybe it should include "end for-profit prisons" passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #73

they should add drug testing for all us of force incidents. mopinko Aug 2015 #104

I'd like to add #11... cui bono Aug 2015 #117

It's a great plan and will help a lot Warpy Aug 2015 #6

Yes. +1 nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #14

Good ideas. Chemisse Aug 2015 #32

I am a middle aged white feminist liberal cat lover...and I say "Damn Good Ideas! Let's do it!" Left coast liberal Aug 2015 #7

K&R -- glad to see this. senz Aug 2015 #8

How can that policy be written to work in a community with largely black population? Hoppy Aug 2015 #19

Community policing. kwassa Aug 2015 #44

Absolutely right, kwassa. The only way policing should work in any community. senz Aug 2015 #86

What kwassa said. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #67

You're right senz, they include training: lovemydog Aug 2015 #57

Thanks, lovemydog. This is all good. senz Aug 2015 #83

Same here senz. lovemydog Aug 2015 #84

It seems like an excellent plan, and mostly achievable. fbc Aug 2015 #11

Hire some Quakers. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #12

The Wobs are right. Scruffy1 Aug 2015 #18

After about 45 years of thought on the sunject. Scruffy1 Aug 2015 #17

Sandra Bland had a job. It didn't help her. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Aug 2015 #115

They are addressing one specific problem gollygee Aug 2015 #24

They're addressing one problem. It is up to others to address other problems, jeff47 Aug 2015 #42

Sheeesh, we've never heard that before Chitown Kev Aug 2015 #61

Let Fed Gov come up with an Economic solution JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #88

Campaign Zero's sheshe2 Aug 2015 #26

I hope we see action too. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #31

They did good, Starry Messenger. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #38

Get their fat asses outa them cruisers & force them to mingle with those they're suppose to protect tularetom Aug 2015 #27

The is the best and most productive agenda I've seen for policing. catnhatnh Aug 2015 #30

They offered this on Friday. murielm99 Aug 2015 #33

I am posting about the pledge action on FB and Twitter. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #34

Great that you're sharing it Starry Messenger! lovemydog Aug 2015 #56

Works for me! tblue Aug 2015 #36

Good article by a former NYC cop, Frank Serpico. canoeist52 Aug 2015 #37

Mahalo Starry Messenger! "Campaign Zero" a plan to end Police Killings.. from your link.. Cha Aug 2015 #39

Thanks for highlighting this, Cha. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #40

I know, they are simply Amazing! We are going to get this done, Starry. Cha Aug 2015 #45

No doubt, the Republicans' were empty. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #41

Again we have an election, she.. that is LOVE VS pure Evil Cha Aug 2015 #46

We are going to win this. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #48

Here's a handy graphic.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #47

Thank you, Spitfire! Cha Aug 2015 #68

I remember YEARS ago when I first looked up the Black Panther's 10 Point Program.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #72

End the war on (some) drugs. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #49

Sounds pretty good HassleCat Aug 2015 #51

This is such an awesome story. Kicking again!!! Number23 Aug 2015 #76

Yep. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #78

Oh good Lord no, it's not the end. As more than one person has noticed here Number23 Aug 2015 #85

Agree. lovemydog Aug 2015 #113

Yes, this process didn't just happen overnight with a few friends over beer. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #114

Kick! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #80

BLM putting meat on the bones of this movement. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #89

Add steroids testing and, as others have suggested, insurance requirements or ... Scuba Aug 2015 #91

Mostly agree thebighobgoblin Aug 2015 #92

I think the community policing model gets at what you mention. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #103

I don't know the proper semantics thebighobgoblin Aug 2015 #105

s&F azureblue Aug 2015 #106

Sorry, most make sense, but Number 1 as written is ridiculous MichMan Aug 2015 #109

I guess I didn't picture the violent arrests for this sort of activity as happening in front of Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #112

Fantastic! blackspade Aug 2015 #94

Every candidate should support this - TBF Aug 2015 #95

There's only one thing wrong with the 10 tenets: Jester Messiah Aug 2015 #101

What do you know. Android3.14 Aug 2015 #102

Good stuff Babel_17 Aug 2015 #110

This is great! ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #111

Excellent! silverweb Aug 2015 #116

This is great. hughee99 Aug 2015 #118