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JustAnotherGen

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59. Are you for free college for all?

Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:47 PM

Sep 2015

Because you brought up education.

A black 16 year old in Newark NJ or rural Mississippi or hell - even Detroit - they aren't prepared for Notre Dame on day one.

While Clinton and Sanders were BOTH in Congress:
That 16 year old's mother received sub standard prenatal care.
His parents might have worked themselves to the bone, but it wasn't enough to pull them out of a lower income neighborhood.
Maybe he got Head Start.
But his primary school didn't teach him the basics.
His middle school didn't give him the foundation he needed for AP Calculus and English.

And one wants to give speeches about how she's a fighter and the other one wants to give him a free college education?

Neither one was doing the right thing 14/15 years ago and now that kid is NOT PREPARED. Neither one.

And only one candidate is talking about transforming (IN detail) the fourth year of high school and is willing to ackowledge that middle class kids and higher are the ones prepared for college on day one -

But he can help the kid who is not make a GOOD living in a skilled job with a solid wage.

But we are sick and tired of hearing your song
Telling how you are gonna change right from wrong
'Cause if you really want to hear our views "You haven't done nothing"! Stevie Wonder

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Why Bernie Sanders� problems with black voters go much deeper than him just blaming the media [View all] MrScorpio Sep 2015 OP

"That's mainly because very few have even heard of Sanders" arcane1 Sep 2015 #1

I'm sure that quite a few more have heard of him in the last two months since NetRoots and Seattle MrScorpio Sep 2015 #2

And that trend will continue arcane1 Sep 2015 #3

He does have a long way to go at this stage though MrScorpio Sep 2015 #5

Agreed n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #6

But, unfortunately, there's a little trouble on the horizon� MrScorpio Sep 2015 #7

Exactly. And that's why we volunteer: to help get that word out. arcane1 Sep 2015 #8

Apparently, the problems go deeper than just volunteering� MrScorpio Sep 2015 #11

Nobody said it would be easy. It's a campaign. arcane1 Sep 2015 #13

True, it is a campaign. At least that's your take on it as well. I do give you some credit for that MrScorpio Sep 2015 #15

From your keyboard to the campaign's ears, er screen. nt SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #21

Here's a line you didn't highlight. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #26

I'm not doubting this� MrScorpio Sep 2015 #27

Sure. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #28

That is, if he wins the primary� MrScorpio Sep 2015 #34

Does Clinton even have a racial justice platform yet? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #39

I'm not really concerned with debating the merits of one candidate vs the other... MrScorpio Sep 2015 #45

Wow, you just got your BSN? Cool! Congrats, if in order! As to your post, I agree PatrickforO Oct 2015 #129

Just? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #131

I don't understand why so many black voters are not familiar with Sanders. totodeinhere Sep 2015 #36

I don't think you've looked at the polls much. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #40

I'm AfAm in my early 40's JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #48

It also has to do with viability Gothmog Oct 2015 #92

With viability, it's not just visibility, but stances on issues that voters are waiting for... cascadiance Oct 2015 #101

Sanders is bringing a knife to a gunfight Gothmog Oct 2015 #106

Ultimately what count are VOTES... OUR votes! Money only buys visibility cascadiance Oct 2015 #108

You can count on a very narrow demographic to support Sanders Gothmog Oct 2015 #117

The polls on issues that Sanders supports shows a MAJORITY of AMERICANS supporting what he supports! cascadiance Oct 2015 #120

Do you have a link to these polls? Gothmog Oct 2015 #124

Sure! Read them and weep! cascadiance Oct 2015 #125

Did you read these polls? Gothmog Oct 2015 #130

Let me get this straight jfern Oct 2015 #109

Why don't you explain how Sanders can win in a general election contest w/o super pac? Gothmog Oct 2015 #116

Why don't you explain how you KNOW he can't! cascadiance Oct 2015 #121

He'll raise a few hundred million dollars if he's the nominee jfern Oct 2015 #122

Iowa PPP (D) 9/18 BlueStateLib Oct 2015 #79

Will that result in high turnout though? elehhhhna Sep 2015 #53

That is a great chart Gothmog Oct 2015 #89

Yes, this is a bogus premise... Human101948 Sep 2015 #4

Really its been said he was a great civil rights marcher... Historic NY Sep 2015 #12

From The OP Here's The Quote That I Would Like Some Explanation For.... global1 Sep 2015 #9

I can try to simplify it for you. leftofcool Sep 2015 #62

What Can Bernie Do To Help Get Those Boats?..... global1 Sep 2015 #68

I think there are others in this thread much more qualified to answer. leftofcool Sep 2015 #69

He needs to say that Blacks matter, and that an America... Anansi1171 Oct 2015 #82

I want to drizzle this post in blueberry syrup and eat it with a stack of pancakes Number23 Oct 2015 #83

sanders black support has increased from 6% to 14% in 3 months noiretextatique Sep 2015 #10

What's with the scare quotes? Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #16

I believe the commenter is suggesting Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #41

You are never going to understand until you read the entire AA group leftofcool Sep 2015 #61

Some people have to get hit by a truck kacekwl Sep 2015 #14

Any Democrat will help solve problems, but none of them are guaranteed to solve them all alone MrScorpio Sep 2015 #17

White supremacist and racial bias are a BIG kacekwl Sep 2015 #22

If you would take the time to read Number23's post below� MrScorpio Sep 2015 #24

Are you for free college for all? JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #59

"Any Democrat will help solve problems" No, some helped create the problems. Scuba Sep 2015 #43

But all of them are better than any Republican. nt MrScorpio Sep 2015 #46

+1 and JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #60

It would be a good idea JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #49

We'll add Ms. Kimberley to the four million people that have tried to relay this message to the Number23 Sep 2015 #18

Damn Skippy! MrScorpio Sep 2015 #19

and there it is tishaLA Sep 2015 #20

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #85

Spot on. BumRushDaShow Sep 2015 #23

You nailed it. Number23 Sep 2015 #30

yes you nailed it nt steve2470 Sep 2015 #32

+ a million Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #38

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #86

It's amazing to me that people don't get this. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #25

You NAILED it! Number23 Sep 2015 #31

Thank you! Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #37

Capitalist economics will always deem certain humans expendable. Racism determines which humans scarletwoman Sep 2015 #29

Exactly. And this kind of thing has happened over and over and over again Number23 Sep 2015 #33

Thank you. There's no addressing "income inequality" unless you recognize the fact of the systemic scarletwoman Sep 2015 #35

I'm fairly certain Sanders realizes that. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #42

You know Erich JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #50

Laugh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #52

The thing is JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #56

I wish you well. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #57

I'd say the same thing about JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #58

You can legislate the effects out to a smaller degree though and dismantel the infrastructure that uponit7771 Sep 2015 #72

Maybe people should listen to what Sanders is actually saying. mhatrw Sep 2015 #44

I'd like to point one thing out for the record... MrScorpio Sep 2015 #47

Did you listen to the speech excerpt? Did you like or dislike what you heard? mhatrw Sep 2015 #64

I listened and I've never said that I disliked what he said� I'm glad that he said it. MrScorpio Sep 2015 #65

100% agreed mhatrw Sep 2015 #67

No JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #51

Wow! Really? That's how you will decide who to support? bowens43 Sep 2015 #54

Jokes on you - Sanders will lose with you in his pocket JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #55

Click on the video linked below. Advance to the 2:05:12 mark mhatrw Sep 2015 #63

all the dem candidates are equal on their personal views on race JI7 Sep 2015 #66

No - its a waste of time JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #70

Oh wow. I didn't know BS was blaming "the media" on his low AA supporter numbers! I do know Cha Sep 2015 #71

That video shows why Sanders will have issues with getting African American votes Gothmog Oct 2015 #90

And, I'm with the African American Voters, Gothmog. It's a silly strategy to go after an Cha Oct 2015 #93

The positive perception of Clinton is something I don't get. Garrett78 Oct 2015 #73

how is supporting JEsse JAckson for President something deserving of votes ? JI7 Oct 2015 #74

I don't think it's hate of Obama jfern Oct 2015 #75

i plan to vote for Sanders because i like him better than Clinton JI7 Oct 2015 #76

Sanders isn't running against Obama jfern Oct 2015 #77

nope, it is hate JI7 Oct 2015 #78

I think it's mostly a disagreement on the issues jfern Oct 2015 #80

i'm not talking about most democrats . JI7 Oct 2015 #81

LOL Your linked to thread offering a (extremely late) conciliatory attitude towards BLM and black Number23 Oct 2015 #84

Sanders can not attack President Obama and expect the support of AA Gothmog Oct 2015 #91

Hate to tell you this... zappaman Oct 2015 #94

That's just 1 post jfern Oct 2015 #95

107 people recced that shit. zappaman Oct 2015 #96

I found one thread that mentions the word disaster jfern Oct 2015 #97

Uh huh zappaman Oct 2015 #98

Oh I found that jfern Oct 2015 #99

depends on who you ask. for minorities things weren't so great before JI7 Oct 2015 #110

Progress has certainly been made in some areas, but other areas went backwards jfern Oct 2015 #113

I agree Gothmog Oct 2015 #119

I don't understand the African American support for Clinton. Bernblu Oct 2015 #87

Are you black? Number23 Oct 2015 #100

What has he done that has you concerned about supporting or not supporting POC?... cascadiance Oct 2015 #103

If you want to consider his dismal support in the AA community as "complaining" that is certainly Number23 Oct 2015 #105

Sorry if that is mischaracterizing statements that don't seem to be very complimentary towards him.. cascadiance Oct 2015 #107

Bernie's insistence on discussing economic issues when directly asked to discuss issues of race Number23 Oct 2015 #111

With all due respect, Bernie can't be viable and discuss issues of race ALL of the time... cascadiance Oct 2015 #112

I don't even know why you bothered coming into this forum. I knew probably before you did Number23 Oct 2015 #114

How many times has this been discussed in the past couple months? A thousand? kwassa Oct 2015 #115

Sanders is not polling well in the Super Tuesday/SEC primary states Gothmog Oct 2015 #88

let's see, 5 months to go and no debates yet...... bowens43 Oct 2015 #102

It's not that simple jfern Oct 2015 #104

Yes we will Gothmog Oct 2015 #118

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"We have a fundamental disagreement with Bernie Sanders that racism is somehow an offshoot elleng Oct 2015 #126

Ever More Attacks On Bernie And Supporters - So Sad To See Democrats Suckered By These Tactics cantbeserious Oct 2015 #127

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I used to pretend the concerns of others I could dismiss and ignore... LanternWaste Oct 2015 #160

No Poster Has Yet Articulated How HRC Is Better Than Bernie - Ergo - Manufactured Hype cantbeserious Oct 2015 #162

Thank you JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #135

You think that is sad? Really? JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #134

+1 Lisa D Oct 2015 #136

Check out his response! JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #141

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See - you just did it again. JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #138

You Lost This One With The Last Post cantbeserious Oct 2015 #139

No I didn't JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #140

All One Observes Is Anger And Misplaced Loyalty In HRC - Good Luck With That cantbeserious Oct 2015 #142

That didnt take you long, you already know more about the needs randys1 Oct 2015 #143

If You Truly Believe That HRC Is Your Savior - Please Vote For Her - Just Don't Complain When She cantbeserious Oct 2015 #144

Each time you respond, you prove that you have no clue, at all, what the criticism randys1 Oct 2015 #145

Educate All Of Us - If This Is Not About Cynicism Regarding Bernie - What Then Is It About cantbeserious Oct 2015 #147

Your question proves it yet again. randys1 Oct 2015 #149

Look, your posts are beyond embarassing. Consider me doing you a favor by asking you to please Number23 Oct 2015 #154

You aren't observant JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #146

No One Has Dismissed Anyone Or Anything cantbeserious Oct 2015 #148

I asked you to leave JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #150

OMG--I have to read that book! That cover shot is beautiful. MADem Oct 2015 #157

It's excellent JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #158

You've been mighty active here today. Have you visited other topics that aren't about BS? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #151

LOL ... Admit it! You lost because Negroes are supposed to be poor ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #155

That might be all he knows JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #159

I support all of the Democratic candidates� MrScorpio Oct 2015 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author I dunno Oct 2015 #153

But you, clearly, haven't questioned HRC enough ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #156

Matsimela Mapfumo or Mark Thompson of Sirius had David Brock on yesterday. randys1 Oct 2015 #161

k/r Dawson Leery Oct 2015 #128