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tishaLA

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57. "Racism is clearly defined"

Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:52 PM

Sep 2015

I love the use of passive voice here. It begs the question: clearly defined by whom?

It's okay for you to have your definition even though it differs from the definition largely agreed upon by experts; it's become the pop cultural way to evacuate the term of its historical meaning and a way for allows people to say, for example, that black folks are terribly racist because they say mean things about group X even though they have no ability to exercise the power to oppress group X except perhaps in a micro level. And I think this perversion of the word is both sad and odious.

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Spike Lee - "Black People Can't Be Racist - Discuss [View all] JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 OP

How about "racially prejudiced"? flamingdem Sep 2015 #1

Disagree JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #4

Times have changed HassleCat Sep 2015 #2

Which black American in power JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #5

Individual cases should be considered prejudice HassleCat Sep 2015 #7

I've never heard of someone being disliked JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #8

I have not, either HassleCat Sep 2015 #10

Actually, he just proved they can be TlalocW Sep 2015 #3

How? JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #6

NO, Black people in America, at this point in time, cant be racist. They can be and some are randys1 Sep 2015 #11

I think I may have this figured out Randy. leftofcool Sep 2015 #72

DING DING DING randys1 Sep 2015 #73

Surely NONE of your posts in this thread were alerted on or flagged? randys1 Sep 2015 #12

Why would someone alert JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #13

Seriously, that was alerted on? FUCK! but no hidden posts today, ?? but why are you randys1 Sep 2015 #14

He's a Sanders supporter, isn't he? gollygee Sep 2015 #43

His statemnet is pure BS demosincebirth Sep 2015 #62

They can hold racist views, sure. NuclearDem Sep 2015 #9

I'd Agree lib87 Sep 2015 #15

It's true. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #16

In many cases, white people confuse being called out for *their* racism YoungDemCA Sep 2015 #75

People who disagree with this are using the other sense of racism Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #17

When black folks hold the power gwheezie Sep 2015 #18

Duh! Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #19

I do not understand libodem Sep 2015 #20

Can you say this in English as opposed to Judith Butler-ese please? Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #21

That's the best I can express it libodem Sep 2015 #22

In other words, you agree with Jean Genet Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #24

Because we were asked to discuss this libodem Sep 2015 #25

OK Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #27

I think that is why some libodem Sep 2015 #30

uh, YEAH! Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #37

I found our talk very productive libodem Sep 2015 #41

And the sad thing is, qwlauren35 Sep 2015 #77

According to the dictionary definition of racism, I believe Spike is referring to the second version Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #23

Your welco and thank you JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #33

Peace to you, JustAnotherGen. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #35

Definitions matter: guillaumeb Sep 2015 #26

Some white people need to be able to call Black people racist. randys1 Sep 2015 #29

Also very true. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #46

Dictionaries are not written in a vacuum tishaLA Sep 2015 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Sep 2015 #47

Knowing the OED like I do Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #49

I actually looked it up online tishaLA Sep 2015 #50

Interesting to me that the word/concept only appeared in 1903. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #52

Magnus Hirschfeld, the Germon sexologist Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #56

He is correct Truprogressive85 Sep 2015 #28

Because - this is the African American group JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #31

??? onpatrol98 Sep 2015 #76

That is a propaganda technique known as the "Big Lie" Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #32

I've never heard of this Big Lie JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #34

Spike Lee, apparently Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #36

Wrong...but i think educating you would be a waste of time randys1 Sep 2015 #38

Are you sure you don't mean black folks can't be bigoted or prejudiced? tishaLA Sep 2015 #42

Words have meaning Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #45

It's actually not so clear to me tishaLA Sep 2015 #48

If we cannot agree that words have meaning then communication is impossible Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #54

"Racism is clearly defined" tishaLA Sep 2015 #57

Merriam-Webster. I do not know the name of staff members responsible for the r's Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #60

yes, I know dictionary writers have strange ideas about some words and concepts tishaLA Sep 2015 #61

Thank you for talking with me. Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #63

wrong again... randys1 Sep 2015 #51

dont respond, you are being set up for a hide, let me take the hit randys1 Sep 2015 #39

You aren't the first person to tell me that today JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #64

You are incorrect, chervilant Sep 2015 #65

Then live in your cocoon Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #66

I am a sociologist, and I was privileged to participate in chervilant Sep 2015 #67

Yes. I'm familiar with it. Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #69

I noticed how your verbiage changed from chervilant Sep 2015 #70

I can revert to that if you like Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #71

The paradox of racism tishaLA Sep 2015 #44

+1 gollygee Sep 2015 #55

My students this summer were talking about racism in class tishaLA Sep 2015 #58

For example, when Ta-Nehisi Coates (after James Baldwin and many others) Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #59

Well said. For alot of folks, it's those OTHER white people that are the racists Number23 Sep 2015 #68

Great points YoungDemCA Sep 2015 #74

I think people can be prejudiced against others based on perceived race. David__77 Sep 2015 #53

1,456 Views - 77 replies JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #78

In the other Thread ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #79

Get out! JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #80

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #82

racism is so much more than interpersonal racism that i tend to agree with spike lee La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2015 #81

In other words, is so-called "reverse racism" legit? No. Garrett78 Oct 2015 #83

He was exactly correct then and that's still the case to this very day nt MrScorpio Oct 2015 #84

What some call racism isn't kcroyals Oct 2015 #85