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Garrett78

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83. In other words, is so-called "reverse racism" legit? No.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:26 PM
Oct 2015

And that question always reminds me of an article by Tim Wise that I wish every white person would read: http://www.timwise.org/2002/06/honky-wanna-cracker-examining-the-myth-of-reverse-racism/.


As a white person, I always saw the terms honky or cracker as proof of how much more potent white racism was than any variation practiced by the black or brown. When a group of people has little or no power over you, they don’t get to define the terms of your existence, they can’t limit your opportunities, and you needn’t worry much about the use of a slur to describe you, since, in all likelihood, the slur is as far as it’s going to go. What are they going to do next: deny you a bank loan? Yeah, right. So whereas the n-word is a term used by whites to dehumanize blacks, to “put them in their place” if you will, the same cannot be said of honky; after all, you can’t put white people in their place when they own the place to begin with.

Power is like body armor; and while not all whites have the same power, all of us have more than we need vis-a-vis people of color, at least when it comes to racial position. Consider poor whites: to be sure, they are less financially powerful than wealthy people of color; but that misses the point of how racial privilege operates within a class system. Within a class system, people compete for “stuff” against others of their same basic economic status. In other words, rich and poor are not competing for the same homes, loans, jobs or even educations to a large extent. Rich compete against rich, working class against working class and poor against poor; and in those competitions — the ones that take place in the real world — racial privilege attaches.

Poor whites are rarely typified as pathological, dangerous, lazy or shiftless to anywhere near the extent the black poor are. Nor are they demonized the way poor Latino immigrants tend to be. When politicians want to bash welfare recipients they don’t pick Bubba and Crystal from the trailer park; they choose Shawonda Jefferson from the projects, with her five kids. Also, according to reports from several states, ever since so-called welfare reform, white recipients have been treated better by caseworkers, are less likely to be bumped off rolls for presumed failure to comply with regulations, and have been given more assistance at finding jobs than their black or brown counterparts. Poor whites are more likely to have a job, and are more likely to own their own home than the poor of color. Indeed, whites with incomes under $13,000 annually are more likely to own their own home than blacks with incomes that are three times higher due to having inherited property.

None of this denies that poor whites are being screwed by an economic system that relies on their misery. But they retain a leg up on poor or somewhat better off people of color thanks to racism. It is that leg up that renders the potency of certain prejudices less threatening than others; it is what makes cracker or honky less problematic than slurs used against the black and brown.

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How about "racially prejudiced"? flamingdem Sep 2015 #1
Disagree JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #4
Times have changed HassleCat Sep 2015 #2
Which black American in power JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #5
Individual cases should be considered prejudice HassleCat Sep 2015 #7
I've never heard of someone being disliked JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #8
I have not, either HassleCat Sep 2015 #10
Actually, he just proved they can be TlalocW Sep 2015 #3
How? JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #6
NO, Black people in America, at this point in time, cant be racist. They can be and some are randys1 Sep 2015 #11
I think I may have this figured out Randy. leftofcool Sep 2015 #72
DING DING DING randys1 Sep 2015 #73
Surely NONE of your posts in this thread were alerted on or flagged? randys1 Sep 2015 #12
Why would someone alert JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #13
Seriously, that was alerted on? FUCK! but no hidden posts today, ?? but why are you randys1 Sep 2015 #14
He's a Sanders supporter, isn't he? gollygee Sep 2015 #43
His statemnet is pure BS demosincebirth Sep 2015 #62
They can hold racist views, sure. NuclearDem Sep 2015 #9
I'd Agree lib87 Sep 2015 #15
It's true. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #16
In many cases, white people confuse being called out for *their* racism YoungDemCA Sep 2015 #75
People who disagree with this are using the other sense of racism Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #17
When black folks hold the power gwheezie Sep 2015 #18
Duh! Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #19
I do not understand libodem Sep 2015 #20
Can you say this in English as opposed to Judith Butler-ese please? Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #21
That's the best I can express it libodem Sep 2015 #22
In other words, you agree with Jean Genet Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #24
Because we were asked to discuss this libodem Sep 2015 #25
OK Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #27
I think that is why some libodem Sep 2015 #30
uh, YEAH! Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #37
I found our talk very productive libodem Sep 2015 #41
And the sad thing is, qwlauren35 Sep 2015 #77
According to the dictionary definition of racism, I believe Spike is referring to the second version Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #23
Your welco and thank you JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #33
Peace to you, JustAnotherGen. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #35
Definitions matter: guillaumeb Sep 2015 #26
Some white people need to be able to call Black people racist. randys1 Sep 2015 #29
Also very true. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #46
Dictionaries are not written in a vacuum tishaLA Sep 2015 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Sep 2015 #47
Knowing the OED like I do Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #49
I actually looked it up online tishaLA Sep 2015 #50
Interesting to me that the word/concept only appeared in 1903. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #52
Magnus Hirschfeld, the Germon sexologist Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #56
He is correct Truprogressive85 Sep 2015 #28
Because - this is the African American group JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #31
??? onpatrol98 Sep 2015 #76
That is a propaganda technique known as the "Big Lie" Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #32
I've never heard of this Big Lie JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #34
Spike Lee, apparently Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #36
Wrong...but i think educating you would be a waste of time randys1 Sep 2015 #38
Are you sure you don't mean black folks can't be bigoted or prejudiced? tishaLA Sep 2015 #42
Words have meaning Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #45
It's actually not so clear to me tishaLA Sep 2015 #48
If we cannot agree that words have meaning then communication is impossible Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #54
"Racism is clearly defined" tishaLA Sep 2015 #57
Merriam-Webster. I do not know the name of staff members responsible for the r's Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #60
yes, I know dictionary writers have strange ideas about some words and concepts tishaLA Sep 2015 #61
Thank you for talking with me. Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #63
wrong again... randys1 Sep 2015 #51
dont respond, you are being set up for a hide, let me take the hit randys1 Sep 2015 #39
You aren't the first person to tell me that today JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #64
You are incorrect, chervilant Sep 2015 #65
Then live in your cocoon Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #66
I am a sociologist, and I was privileged to participate in chervilant Sep 2015 #67
Yes. I'm familiar with it. Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #69
I noticed how your verbiage changed from chervilant Sep 2015 #70
I can revert to that if you like Bok_Tukalo Sep 2015 #71
The paradox of racism tishaLA Sep 2015 #44
+1 gollygee Sep 2015 #55
My students this summer were talking about racism in class tishaLA Sep 2015 #58
For example, when Ta-Nehisi Coates (after James Baldwin and many others) Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #59
Well said. For alot of folks, it's those OTHER white people that are the racists Number23 Sep 2015 #68
Great points YoungDemCA Sep 2015 #74
I think people can be prejudiced against others based on perceived race. David__77 Sep 2015 #53
1,456 Views - 77 replies JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #78
In the other Thread ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #79
Get out! JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #80
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #82
racism is so much more than interpersonal racism that i tend to agree with spike lee La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2015 #81
In other words, is so-called "reverse racism" legit? No. Garrett78 Oct 2015 #83
He was exactly correct then and that's still the case to this very day nt MrScorpio Oct 2015 #84
What some call racism isn't kcroyals Oct 2015 #85
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