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Jim Lane

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47. Is it your opinion that Bernie Sanders has been incompetent as a U.S. Senator?

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 04:13 PM

Oct 2015

That's the opinion you would have to hold to apply the Peter Principle -- demonstrated incompetence in the person's current position as the reason that the person is not promoted.

As you say, if that's your opinion, you're entitled to hold it. I'm just curious about whether that IS your opinion.

On DU, Sanders has been criticized for some (not all) of his votes on gun issues, and on one particular weapon system (the F-35). With those exceptions, most DUers, even those who haven't endorsed him, generally assess him as one of the best in the Senate. And that's even if we spot Clinton her subsequently regretted vote on the IWR. Sanders has been a progressive champion on a host of issues.

So, it's one thing to say you prefer Clinton, but do you consider Sanders to be an incompetent Senator?

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