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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders and the Peter Principle [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)224. That first link is not directed at you--why even mention it?
The writer makes a completely valid point in articulate fashion, too.
The 2nd link isn't directed at you either. No one is saying "Oh, that Jim Lane is a real Hillary Hater" are they?
But you jumped in with this remark (and 'sour' is a mild descriptor):
Star Member Jim Lane (7,222 posts)
47. Oh, absolutely. Any criticism of Hillary whatsoever constitutes Hillary hate.
Except, I guess, when it's merely Hillary bashing. Perhaps the great minds of the Hillary Clinton Group could work out a rubric for distinguishing between those two categories.
There will, of course, be no need for a third category, of "legitimate concerns to raise as part of the vetting of candidates during the fight for the nomination." When it comes to Hillary, there are no recorded instances of any DU post that Hillary supporters consider as falling within that category.
47. Oh, absolutely. Any criticism of Hillary whatsoever constitutes Hillary hate.
Except, I guess, when it's merely Hillary bashing. Perhaps the great minds of the Hillary Clinton Group could work out a rubric for distinguishing between those two categories.
There will, of course, be no need for a third category, of "legitimate concerns to raise as part of the vetting of candidates during the fight for the nomination." When it comes to Hillary, there are no recorded instances of any DU post that Hillary supporters consider as falling within that category.
That is just not true. Much of the criticism is not actual criticism, it's debunked bull straight outta Newsmax and The Daily Caller. Hand written by Reince Pribus.
As for the comment by the Clinton supporter, that's what people are supposed to do on message boards--make points, and debate them as well. If you disagree with post 67's conclusions, refute them--don't whine that the few HRC supporters who haven't been driven off are being "mean to you." It just smacks of petulance. And you're accusing me of "bemoaning?" It's especially ironic that you are doing it in this particular group, where a former Sanders supporter was hounded and silenced for having the nerve to give #BLM perspective to DU's own Anointed One.
Most of the accusations about Clinton are from bullshit sources and they do carry GOP water. And I can't help but think that not everyone is so obtuse that they don't know where they're getting some of this stuff.
I am not moved by your display of the victim card, sorry. The people who have been victimized on this board are those who refuse to feel that Bern, or who display insufficient enthusiasm for him. We've had members of this group silenced for not staying in their place on the bandwagon. And to me, that's not 'support.' That's bullying, and a lot of it has been done by newcomers with no sense of the DU ethos, and people who I suspect do not have the interest of Democrats at heart.
Because these people are saying what some DUers want to hear, they ignore some of the ugly attitudes expressed, that if directed at THEIR candidate, they'd find appalling.
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I don't think he's flatlining, as much as Hillary is getting a surge because she's
Baitball Blogger
Oct 2015
#29
Which is why I have said that your comments can only be helpful in the long run.
Baitball Blogger
Oct 2015
#51
I think the term makes sense for someone who is expanding his geographical constituency.
Baitball Blogger
Oct 2015
#165
I'm feeling the same way, but Hillary did rise in my estimation with her answer of 'NO'
bravenak
Oct 2015
#18
I hope she keeps that kind of push-back against the GOP scandal-mongering going!
scarletwoman
Oct 2015
#31
Not at all. I am the writer here and I decide the relevancy in my opinion pieces. Thank you.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#28
And executives (as in --hello--the EXECUTIVE branch of government, i.e. POTUS) are managers.
MADem
Oct 2015
#186
Is it your opinion that Bernie Sanders has been incompetent as a U.S. Senator?
Jim Lane
Oct 2015
#47
I based it on his current role in managing his campaign and running for office, which is a job.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#60
There is supporter misbehavior from some Sanders people and from some Clinton people.
Jim Lane
Oct 2015
#72
You're the one dressing up as the victim, here--ironic, since no one sought to offend "you"
MADem
Oct 2015
#228
+1. The Libertarian following is the most hateful. They have no shame when it comes to insults. nt
Tarheel_Dem
Oct 2015
#58
Yeah. I honestly thought he recovered nicely after the second incident, better than the first time.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#44
In response to interactions with Black Lives Matter, Bernie formulated a racial justice platform to
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Oct 2015
#54
I am speaking of his interpersonal skills and him addressing the army he asked for.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#64
I think the letter writer is posting as bravenak at the conservative cave now.....
bravenak
Oct 2015
#79
No surprise. If it werent that your life depended on it, literally, as you are both a Woman and
randys1
Oct 2015
#90
I never used the word all. I specifically said the most caustic and what I consider Rand Paulites.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#97
Well, every candidate is going to have a lot of supporter who think that race isn't much of an issue
jfern
Oct 2015
#116
IIRC, it was a few weeks after the BLM/Sanders encounter at the SS rally in Seattle
Chitown Kev
Oct 2015
#146
Holy SHIT!! I just read that crap myself! How the HELL was that post not hidden??!
Number23
Oct 2015
#209
I alerted it, too, as soon as I read it last night. Alas, I was already too late.
scarletwoman
Oct 2015
#220
The "uppity" comment is head scratchingly stupid. The "I'm a parent of a Palestinian" and the
Number23
Oct 2015
#210
a "Half Palestinian" (that statement makes me weep for that child, ...
1StrongBlackMan
Oct 2015
#212
There has been only one other time I've seen such open, UNABASHED hostility towards black people
Number23
Oct 2015
#213
I think Bernie's supporters are called out so much because of their behavior. Nothing more
Number23
Oct 2015
#99
He is incredibly strong on alot of issues. And he is weak as hell on others and whether his
Number23
Oct 2015
#112
That platform was developed primarily after having been shamed by black activists
Number23
Oct 2015
#115
Glad to see you back! I've always enjoyed your posts, even if I don't always agree with you.
WIProgressive88
Oct 2015
#82
Wow, brave.. you came back Sizzlin' just like you left! I know full well what the Peter
Cha
Oct 2015
#166