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jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 05:00 PM Jun 2013

Whiteness, NSA Spying and the Irony of Racial Privilege [View all]

Tim Wise

It’s not that I’m not angry.

It’s not that I’m not disturbed, even horrified by the fact that my government thinks it appropriate to spy on people, monitoring their phone calls — to whom we speak and when — among other tactics, all in the supposed service of the national interest.

That any government thinks it legitimate to so closely monitor its people is indicative of the inherent sickness of nation-states, made worse in the modern era, where the power to intrude into the most private aspects of our lives is more possible than ever, thanks to the data-gathering techniques made feasible by technological advance.

That said, I also must admit to a certain nonchalance in the face of the recent revelations about the National Security Agency’s snooping into phone records, and the dust-up over the leaking of the NSA’s program by Ed Snowden. And as I tried to figure out why I wasn’t more animated upon hearing the revelations — and, likewise, why so many others were — it struck me. Those who are especially chapped about the program, about the very concept of their government keeping tabs on them — in effect profiling them as potential criminals, as terrorists — are almost entirely those for whom shit like this is new: people who have never before been presumed criminal, up to no good, or worthy of suspicion.
In short, they are mostly white. And male. And middle-class or above. And most assuredly not Muslim.


http://www.timwise.org/2013/06/whiteness-nsa-spying-and-the-irony-of-racial-privilege/#more-2984
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Yes, if 8 years of Bush taught me anything... Pholus Jun 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Mar 2014 #25
Some scientists of my acquaintance always kind of hoped.... Pholus Mar 2014 #30
So, no comment on the OP? freshwest Mar 2014 #31
I believe my only relevant unique comment was made in June of last year. Pholus Mar 2014 #33
It's not my thread. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #35
But you asked. Pholus Mar 2014 #36
It's still not about me. I wanted additional comment, since your second reply expressed a lot more freshwest Mar 2014 #38
He hit the nail on the head JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #2
Start that thread! Where are you gonna post it? Number23 Jun 2013 #4
LOL Number23 Jun 2013 #3
That goes without saying, except some people get offended by the truth of it... freshwest Mar 2014 #21
Reading this thread, I just noticed that SemperEadem hasn't posted in eons Number23 Mar 2014 #22
Yes, on a daily basis I question being here, haven't been here long, despite my post count. freshwest Mar 2014 #23
Bump JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #5
I probably ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #7
I did, but it will die on the vine no matter jaysunb Jun 2013 #8
I guess Race ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #9
That thread was unbelievable. I saw your response that started the flaming on you here: freshwest Mar 2014 #27
I am convinced that ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #32
Yes, purity tests are not the traits of survivors, but those who are above that. Since I have in freshwest Mar 2014 #34
Word! ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #37
That's just what I was thinking yesterday. No instant gratification there, nope, there wasn't. freshwest Mar 2014 #39
Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #40
Well, I am glad I missed the whitewashers. Must be on my Iggy list. Some of them think I'm gonna freshwest Mar 2014 #41
Funny ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #6
Don't engage with her JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #10
LOL.. that's like that saying SemperEadem Jun 2013 #12
there it is! Tim Wise nails it once again. SemperEadem Jun 2013 #11
You guys need to see JustAnotherGen's posts in this thread Number23 Jun 2013 #13
That was a thing of beauty SemperEadem Jun 2013 #15
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #17
an island of sane commentary in an ocean of racial trollery carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #14
Tim Wise is in the middle of doing a documentary SemperEadem Jun 2013 #16
I can't speak for everyone, but as far as I'm concerned Number23 Jun 2013 #18
thanks, this forum feels like a refuge carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #19
Agreed. And this thread should have more Recs. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #28
That should hit like a ton of bricks! Whisp Jun 2013 #20
How did I miss this? Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #24
Nail, meet head. -nt Anansi1171 Mar 2014 #26
Interesting. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #29
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