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1StrongBlackMan

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194. So the "research" point just fell upon the screen? ...

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:47 AM

Nov 2015

But, to your question, as a "self-described Strong Black man", I know Cha was not speaking of the "entire community" (arguing absolutism to make the exception legitimate, really sucks) ... AND, as a "self-described" member of the Black community that has been subjected to the (I won't use your sugar-coated "mean people" characterization), racist sh!t from some of Bernie's most "enthusiastic" supporters, both on DU, and other places on line, I know that Bernie supporting "mean people", are in fact, negatively influencing his perception of my "self-described" self ... ANDHaving deep connections to broad swathes of my "self-described" community (through my community/civic involvement), I know that this disaffection extends beyond my "self-described" self.

That's why I'm not insulted.

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Bravenak's OP "Eight Things Bernie Sanders' Supporters Need to Stop Saying to Black People" hidden. [View all] betsuni Nov 2015 OP

I am a Bernie Sandernista. I also think there needs to be an intervention to stop what is.... marble falls Nov 2015 #1

It's too damned late for Bernie and his supporters to connect with POC I think. upaloopa Nov 2015 #2

Totally makes sense Gore1FL Nov 2015 #57

DU has little effect on anything I think ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #117

Doubt it. I don't think "minorities" are the thin-skinned shallow idiots you think them to be. n/t Gore1FL Nov 2015 #163

You are really confused by this conversation aren't you? Most people when clearly over their Number23 Nov 2015 #214

Problem is bigger than DU.. this behavior is all over the net and it's been noticed by so many Cha Nov 2015 #166

If you say so. Gore1FL Nov 2015 #186

i've noticed this re-packaged DU:Bernie narrative ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #188

Not my narrative. Cha said that the entire comunity was swayed by mean people Gore1FL Nov 2015 #192

So the "research" point just fell upon the screen? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #194

I think members of the African American community are able to research the candidates. Gore1FL Nov 2015 #198

I have spoken to that (re-packaged) "research" B.S., ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #200

Self-described is an insult? Your handle self describes you as 1strongblackman! Gore1FL Nov 2015 #204

Sighhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #205

Not at all. Gore1FL Nov 2015 #206

It makes me feel nothing. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #207

Understood. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #218

Don't put words in my mouth. I think African Americans are as dedicated and passionate.. Cha Nov 2015 #189

I thought you implied that the community was swayed by harsh wordsa and not facts. Gore1FL Nov 2015 #191

Get a grip.. I'm not insulting African Americans. Cha Nov 2015 #193

At least not intentionally, I suppose. n/t Gore1FL Nov 2015 #197

Ha.. now you're on to the innuendoes. Cha Nov 2015 #199

Ha! Gore1FL Nov 2015 #203

Could you please take your intrusion and willful distortions of what is very clearly being said Number23 Nov 2015 #211

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #212

Your inability to understand something does not make it a willfull distortion Number23 Nov 2015 #213

Wow, thank you so much, Number23! I misread his post in the first place or I never would Cha Nov 2015 #217

The sad irony is I tried to warn them from day one and got shouted down... Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #121

Bravenak did the same. And all she got for her efforts was the Wrath of Simpletons Number23 Nov 2015 #122

You sure did tell me! bravenak Nov 2015 #128

And I also told you about some of those folks you were running around with last year too Number23 Nov 2015 #133

Hee hee!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #134

All she has to do is STOP speaking her truth and (a segment of) DU will leave her alone ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #6

Yeah, but I want her here AND I want her speaking truth even when I disagree. She's one person... marble falls Nov 2015 #7

Absolutely. I'm so sick of this garbage. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #149

3 of my past 5 juries have been on her Recursion Nov 2015 #12

I'm doing almost a jury a day and at least 80% seem personal. I've never been on a Bravenak jury.... marble falls Nov 2015 #16

I'm also on a jury nearly every day (very unusual). betsuni Nov 2015 #19

Yes, and many also target Bernie supporters for utterly trivial reasons. Alerting is being used peacebird Nov 2015 #72

I suspect ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #82

Been on a few of those juries, and they seem to equal in number those on HRC supporters... marble falls Nov 2015 #89

Relatively even in which side received the alert unc70 Nov 2015 #104

I am a group host in this Group along with 1Strongblackman JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #180

I wasn't trying for disruption unc70 Nov 2015 #196

YES!!!! Can we please do this?!? n/t Digital Puppy Nov 2015 #157

LOL ... and one only needs to read the ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #80

A few of the alerters I suspect have very high posting numbers. marble falls Nov 2015 #153

Oh ... I'm certain of it. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #154

And >75% of my juries in the last 3 months have been on Sanders supporters jeff47 Nov 2015 #76

I'm so sure ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #93

I've long supported more transparency in the jury system jeff47 Nov 2015 #96

"Skinner feels more transparency would lead to greater animosity" SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #150

can you link me to the hide randys1 Nov 2015 #102

I keep hearing the "both sides do it" argument but Hillary supporters are not hunting the AA forum Number23 Nov 2015 #123

They're busy hunting the Sanders forum. jeff47 Nov 2015 #125

The hosts only see SOP alerts not alerts on disruptive posts Number23 Nov 2015 #127

Added this while you were replying jeff47 Nov 2015 #129

I have no idea what your post is supposed to mean or why in God's name you think Saddam's Number23 Nov 2015 #131

There were lots and lots of stories making that claim. Did that make it true? jeff47 Nov 2015 #142

This is easily one of the most laughably stupid things I've ever seen anyone post anywhere on this Number23 Nov 2015 #146

I gave him the second warning directly below JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #179

Some of the stuff these people say around here is nothing short of surreal Number23 Nov 2015 #210

We only see SOP alerts - Group Host JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #178

Most of the people on this board are Sanders supporters, so that makes sense. nt MADem Nov 2015 #176

I too am a Bernie supporter Lazy Daisy Nov 2015 #14

I would not have hidden for any of the "8 Things" but the picture is problematic Jim Lane Nov 2015 #35

I totally agree. There is no reason for all of the attacks just because we do not agree with a LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #17

Who would lead such an intervention? brer cat Nov 2015 #26

Some simple changes to the alert/jury system might help..... marble falls Nov 2015 #46

As with most things, systemic/institutional change only comes about ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #110

Now I wish I could have read what she said. Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #29

Its posted below and there's a link to the origional article. marble falls Nov 2015 #41

Thank you. Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #49

K&R! stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #3

Link? yardwork Nov 2015 #4

The eight things are valid.Its an angry response to having to hear them over and over and over.. marble falls Nov 2015 #8

There's nothing wrong with that OP. Stupid hide. yardwork Nov 2015 #10

Totally stupid hide and another reason I believe and understand why others believe Bravenak is ... marble falls Nov 2015 #13

Agree on all counts. Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #55

... betsuni Nov 2015 #9

Thanks. Childish hide. yardwork Nov 2015 #11

Some people blame the mirror for what they see in it. Warpy Nov 2015 #141

Stupid hide. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #152

This Bernie supporter thinks it was a bad hide. Scuba Nov 2015 #5

The eight terrible things needing a hiding: marble falls Nov 2015 #15

His supporters are the reason I could never support Sanders Gman Nov 2015 #20

+1000. Laurian Nov 2015 #60

Seconded. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #79

It has been eye opening for me, I can tell you that. randys1 Nov 2015 #106

Somebody lost alerting privileges for the day alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #118

In a protected area, no less. Gman Nov 2015 #119

OH BooF*******HOOOO! "His supporters are the reason I could never support Sanders" they just Cha Nov 2015 #167

Same here Coolest Ranger Nov 2015 #182

Well they're campaigning in his name.. so it's easy to see why anyone wouldn't want to support BS Cha Nov 2015 #183

I'd love to believe somebody lost priveledges for a day over that. marble falls Nov 2015 #184

7-0 Leave you lose alerting privileges...there's no ifs about it alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #187

8 more. lovemydog Nov 2015 #177

Re: #5 ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #190

Excellent response. lovemydog Nov 2015 #208

Oh come on, really? blackspade Nov 2015 #18

Kick & highly recommended! William769 Nov 2015 #21

A vote for Bernie 72DejaVu Nov 2015 #22

True on either side. Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #36

I have not seen one post 72DejaVu Nov 2015 #103

damn Good thing that ain't happening. Cha Nov 2015 #171

The more they try to bring down Bravenak, the stronger they make her. William769 Nov 2015 #23

Indeed. betsuni Nov 2015 #25

Bravenak springs into action when the Underground down here needs her: freshwest Nov 2015 #107

Here is just one example of the her being alert stalked that they keep telling us is not happening. William769 Nov 2015 #30

"The poster states that they wish they could compel several DUers into ignoring them.... That means, Cha Nov 2015 #201

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #44

Just like Hillary.. both two Cha Nov 2015 #172

Yes sheshe2 Nov 2015 #215

Then if I may ask you Bernie Supporters Coolest Ranger Nov 2015 #24

Both sides have been wrong on some things Rebkeh Nov 2015 #32

Um sorry Coolest Ranger Nov 2015 #148

You are free Rebkeh Nov 2015 #151

Just like Coolest Ranger Nov 2015 #181

I hear ya, Coolest Ranger.. that "both sides" proclamation is weak at best. Just bc It's said Cha Nov 2015 #174

I support Bravenak. This is inexcusable. I see Sanders and his supporters in my rear view mirror. NBachers Nov 2015 #27

The perpetually disgruntled know they can't win. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #28

Really? Rebkeh Nov 2015 #33

I've been referring to the perpetually disgruntled here on DU ... JoePhilly Nov 2015 #37

No need to get personal Rebkeh Nov 2015 #39

The perpetually disgruntled can vote for whoever they want. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #59

Yes... tonedevil Nov 2015 #137

OH NO.. you have that Wrong.. JoePhilly isn't in the "perpetually disgruntled" gjroup.. I know bc Cha Nov 2015 #169

I know you have and it is an apt assessment JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #50

And don't forget the times he ... JoePhilly Nov 2015 #140

Heh heh heh JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #144

Yup, meanwhile i wonder how many of them organize at local levels, which could actually turn this La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #136

I would guess very few JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #145

And, so have I JoePhilly.. thank you! and, I can't see anything about you "getting personal" just Cha Nov 2015 #170

Yes he is helping JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #40

Oh, she'll see. The second she has a disagreement with Bernie, then she will see. bravenak Nov 2015 #47

Correction JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #48

Exactly. A captain save a Sanders. bravenak Nov 2015 #51

Oh! JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #78

I barked out a loud laugh typing that out! bravenak Nov 2015 #83

I spit coffee on my desk JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #88

They say the darnedest things!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #98

LOL!!!! stevil Nov 2015 #114

Suga Free!! bravenak Nov 2015 #115

Agree Renew Deal Nov 2015 #54

Lol! That is why I have her on full ignore. So sweet. bravenak Nov 2015 #58

Why do you hate Michelle Obama? Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #71

Oh God... that one. The biggest source of unintentional hilarity this web site has ever seen Number23 Nov 2015 #135

You say pertually disgruntled, I've been calling them the Perpetually Petulant for years Number23 Nov 2015 #130

Perfectly put! JoePhilly Nov 2015 #132

This Bernie supporter says no to censorship bread_and_roses Nov 2015 #31

Poor decision to hide. bullwinkle428 Nov 2015 #34

The admins really have to seize control here The Wizard Nov 2015 #38

Bring back the mods Renew Deal Nov 2015 #52

I guess. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #155

She made people uncomfortable! gollygee Nov 2015 #42

She attacks people. Big difference. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #62

The hidden post was not an attack gollygee Nov 2015 #64

Yeah, well, it's hidden, right? So I guess I have to take your word for it. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #66

People handle a much greater level of passion in disagreement from others. gollygee Nov 2015 #73

I agree, I have never seen Bravenak take a chunk out of anyone's ass. A nibble at most. betsuni Nov 2015 #81

Actually, she's more forgiving than some and wants to have fun, not fight. freshwest Nov 2015 #113

Huh? It's very easy to look at a hidden post. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #156

I'd make that allegation too if I had nothing else... LanternWaste Nov 2015 #124

After you have your posts hidden when you speak truth about racism, you tend to randys1 Nov 2015 #209

Jury Results on Bravenak's post Lisa D Nov 2015 #43

This will help Bernie with black voters. bravenak Nov 2015 #45

Number nine, number nine... SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #158

Another stupid hide n2doc Nov 2015 #53

There are times that it appars that any form of criticism Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #56

Meh. You don't want crazy shit to be hidden? Quit saying crazy shit. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #61

So because I think your post is stupid I should hit the alert button? Digital Puppy Nov 2015 #75

Thank you. I couldn't find the words to respond to this (only two words came to mind). betsuni Nov 2015 #77

LOL! Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #87

Should you alert? No idea. Will you? No idea. Do I care? Not a bit. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #86

Oh, you do care what people think, a great deal. And you think people care what you think. betsuni Nov 2015 #90

Yeah, ok. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #92

Buy me a drink first, maybe a dance, then we'll see. betsuni Nov 2015 #94

!!! zappaman Nov 2015 #109

Group host here- Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #95

Message received. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #99

Please do at least alert on commercial spam if you see it Recursion Nov 2015 #161

Never argue with anyone who themselves to a lower standard than they hold others. LanternWaste Nov 2015 #126

Well said!! Number23 Nov 2015 #138

" You'd rather quiet a voice so that YOU can feel more comfortable." - THAT. marble falls Nov 2015 #185

+10000!! n/t Digital Puppy Nov 2015 #195

Please back away from the AfAm Group - Request from Group Host JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #97

Thank you. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #100

The thing I most dislike about Bernie Sanders is some of his fans. hunter Nov 2015 #63

I agree. nt betsuni Nov 2015 #69

"Telling people what they "should" and shouldn't do is a sure way to alienate them," SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #159

What I've learned on DU over the past month or so: Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #65

This is correct. nt betsuni Nov 2015 #67

I think you nailed it. leftofcool Nov 2015 #68

100% true. gollygee Nov 2015 #74

Exactly. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #84

+1 Digital Puppy Nov 2015 #105

Yep. You nailed it. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #112

Bingo. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #160

"The real racism" is making white folks feel uncomfortable by talking about it Recursion Nov 2015 #162

"It's OK to post racist and/or sexist stuff, because reasons. It's NOT OK to call out racist and/or Cha Nov 2015 #173

Agreed Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #70

That was a great post and a really bad hide. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #85

Need big skis to navigate down huge bullshit mountain. betsuni Nov 2015 #91

We're going to have to start passing out sleds. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #120

Agreed! Unacceptable! Unacceptable! brush Nov 2015 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Nov 2015 #108

That was actually hidden? Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #111

Oh that's just bullshit ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #116

Couldn't agree more. She told me she got at least three juries in that one thread alone Number23 Nov 2015 #139

That was an unjustifiable hide Kalidurga Nov 2015 #143

They can't handle the truth at their own peril. Cha Nov 2015 #147

You're welcome! betsuni Nov 2015 #165

Nothing wrong with the post, but the picture jack_krass Nov 2015 #164

Yeah, because facts are too harsh for them. Let them censor everyone who Cha Nov 2015 #168

I think EarlG should research a few groups here. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #216

Geez. Really sad. One would think most Sanders supporters lovemydog Nov 2015 #175

It is about not admitting there are some changes needed to be made in order for a candidate to Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #202