This groups concerns are not even on the radar with certain folks.

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48. 2010 was sickening. Of course many bernista types of

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that year would have turned away, even and were a factor, but how MANY of those are there? How much of a factor were they in the setting of the enormous right-wing backlash to the election of a Democratic president, a president who was black, passage of the ACA, declining church membership, etc. How big a problem are they is my question?

BTW, anyone read Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right by Jane Mayer yet? I heard some stories about the Kochs from Mayer on NPR that alarmed me, and I thought I was already more than alarmed enough. Their father was a hard-core authoritarian John Bircher, of course, and he was also a great admirer of Nazism. I'm sending for it now. The Kochs and their allies created the Tea Party movement that swept the elections in 2010, no doubt including some of those we're talking about, and they have been stacking political offices and judgeships with their choices since the 1970s. WRTL and Citizens United are also their achievements.

For where our problems truly lie, I think we need to look farther than fringe types who can be depended on to not be dependable.

I forgot to note that the Kochs et al largely created the anti-government/establishment movements that have caught up the bernistas. Behind very real causes for dissatisfaction is manipulation designed to divert that anger in the wrong directions.