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TheBlackAdder

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19. I am a neutral primary candidate Democrat, respecting both Clinton and Sanders.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 12:13 AM
Jan 2016

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Making blanket comments about me being a Sanders supporter just shows the same generalizations criticized.

Having taken quite a few poli-sci courses, having politically engaged family members, growing up in a politically engaged household that stressed civic duty and equality, I have a pretty decent optic on what I comment on. As a kid, my family spent weekends helping to revitalize sections of Camden, NJ. We sacrificed income, food, clothing, etc. as my family pursued civil justice. I am civic-minded and my kids are being raised the same way. While I partially get where you are coming from, since we have different intersectional backgrounds, my commenting as an authority of your community would be just as narrow as Sheryl Sandberg's comments about women Leaning In (something that was destroyed by Bell Hooks-The Feminist Wire).


Studying political history, nothing will change regarding the political institutions of this country if there isn't a disruption to it. It was mostly passive changes that we've seen over the centuries in this country, with the exception of major institutionally-disruptive milestones such as the Civil War, Suffrage, WWII (with women working), and the Civil Rights Movement. The ERA was kind of stopped because Phyllis Schlafly mobilized conservative women, who helped to stop the ERA, as 45% of the US women ended up being against it. Why isn't there an ERA now? Mostly because small bills were enacted to grant partial relief. Just enough to take the pressure off of another ERA drive (which I totally support having the ERA enacted). The same thing is happening in the AA community, just enough relief to prevent faction, just enough to prevent another national protest movement. But, where does that leave the progress in this society? It leaves us pretty much where we are, where politicians talk about change to get the vote, and nothing happens.


Just as black women were co-opted by the white upper-class women during the later part of the 19th Century and straight through to the suffrage movement--only to be ignored after their goals were met, the same thing will continue to happen. Stuff has to change, and it's not going to change by retaining the status quo.


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k&r! nt steve2470 Jan 2016 #1
Yep. SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #2
This video should bring back some memories, esp. the MLK, Jessie Jackson, others towards the end. TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #3
Can you explain what this video is and what it has to do with Sanders' abysmal support in the black Number23 Jan 2016 #4
The post says Clinton's ties go back decades. I was presenting some of those forgotten memories. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #5
That is SOOO sweet of you! Number23 Jan 2016 #7
Ah. That's why I don't like vids, usually. SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #9
No. And I've made the point about a billion times that there are some Sanders "supporters" who have Number23 Jan 2016 #10
Ain't that the simple truth. nt SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #11
You keep saying Clintons, in plural. Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #12
I keep saying Clintons in plural because I am talking about the Clintons. In plural Number23 Jan 2016 #14
Nasty things are being said on both sides. Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #16
Thanks for the update. Number23 Jan 2016 #17
I am a neutral primary candidate Democrat, respecting both Clinton and Sanders. TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #19
I said "some" Sanders supporters. Isn't that the thing they are always screaming about when the Number23 Jan 2016 #22
Redirect. TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #26
So now, everyone who disagrees with you is just "unfamiliar" with history Number23 Jan 2016 #28
. SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #31
Don't you know that the people in here NEED to be "guided" to make decisions? MADem Jan 2016 #47
The only thing I don't know is how anyone that engages in these stupid assed tactics feels Number23 Jan 2016 #50
I think it's kind of like a "We'll know them by their limping" kind of thing! MADem Jan 2016 #58
I know you're not replying to me, but I am replying to you, SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #18
But he says he is neutral and has no dog in this fight. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #23
We have had black posters in this forum post letters of straight up UNDYING hatred of the Clintons Number23 Jan 2016 #25
. SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #27
Right back at you... Number23 Jan 2016 #29
I've always felt comfortable here steve2470 Jan 2016 #33
"I think we all respect each other here." Number23 Jan 2016 #48
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+ a million, Number23! brer cat Jan 2016 #46
DAMN. RIGHT. Number23 Jan 2016 #49
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Well, you will always be welcome here Number23 Jan 2016 #56
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I have never felt uncomfortable here gollygee Jan 2016 #59
... Number23 Jan 2016 #61
Yep, they do. To the AA community. SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #8
Might you be persuaded to summarize? SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #6
I will not summarize the power of that presentation, or extrapolate beyond this video. TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #13
Okay. SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #15
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I'm having a hard time understanding JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #35
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Cagney, wow, havent heard that voice in years randys1 Jan 2016 #40
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