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Showing Original Post only (View all)'Iowa’s Black Caucusgoers' [View all]
'Iowas Black Caucusgoers'
Charles M. Blow
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/01/opinion/iowas-black-caucusgoers.html?_r=0
As Wayne Ford, co-founder and co-chairman of the Iowa Brown and Black Forum, told me Sunday, the level of excitement in the black community is nowhere near where it was 2008 when Barack Obama was a candidate.
Also, the preference for Clinton over Bernie Sanders was a two-pronged assessment; it was a sophisticated weighing of comfort and of policy without an absolutism of good vs. bad, but rather a matter of degrees better or worse, more real or more fantasy.
... For Sanderss part, he seemed to be judged too unfamiliar and too absent, particularly down the homestretch. This feels to me like a terrible tactical error. No matter how much his positions and policies may benefit black voters, they are no more interested than any other group of voters in a long-distance love affair. You have to show up. You have to put in the time.
Also, the preference for Clinton over Bernie Sanders was a two-pronged assessment; it was a sophisticated weighing of comfort and of policy without an absolutism of good vs. bad, but rather a matter of degrees better or worse, more real or more fantasy.
... For Sanderss part, he seemed to be judged too unfamiliar and too absent, particularly down the homestretch. This feels to me like a terrible tactical error. No matter how much his positions and policies may benefit black voters, they are no more interested than any other group of voters in a long-distance love affair. You have to show up. You have to put in the time.
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On the policy front, many simply found Sanderss policies unrealistically ambitious, an over-promising of giveaways. As one woman put it, He sounds like Oprah: You get a car! And you get a car! And you get a car! How is he going to pay for all that?
Not one. Damn. Word. in this piece will be of any surprise to any of the regulars in this forum.
The piece pretty much concludes two things: that Black folks even in freaking Iowa went overwhelmingly for Hillary and nobody black is even half as excited about this election as we were when Obama's name was on the ticket. Again, these are two things that everyone here already knew.
Not that it will do anything to diminish the "black folks just don't know who Sanders is yet" garbage that despite months of being told how ignorant and offensive this is, still floods this web site. And always seems to be inevitably followed by an embarrassingly idiotic "Black folks are feeeeeeling the BERRRRNNN!!!!11one" video that is as divorced from reality as it is quality production skills. This piece does nothing but corroborate what black members of this forum have been saying for MONTHS and we all know that it will once again be dismissed by the willfully clueless who are determined to see the world only as they want it to be and not as it is.
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I have to admit that Blow is correct on all counts. Am I as OTT excited as I was in '08? No.
Tarheel_Dem
Feb 2016
#1
Ellison is on Bernie's team? Didnt know that. Then you hit it on the nose, would translate that they
randys1
Feb 2016
#6
Symone Sanders is the one I was thinking of. I'm afraid that Nina, much like Cynthia McKinney, may..
Tarheel_Dem
Feb 2016
#8
Sanders if nothing else deserves serious props for putting alot of fairly low profile black people
Number23
Feb 2016
#10
Nina Turner came to national notice when the Ohio S.O.S. was screwing with AA voter rules.
Tarheel_Dem
Feb 2016
#14
I didn't know about Symone. My understanding is that he grabbed her after the initial confrontation
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2016
#59
"Unknown" is right. I still don't know who Killer Mike is, and could care less. Hope that doesn't..
Tarheel_Dem
Feb 2016
#94
I think it was Ken Blackwell (who is black), and then his successor took it to new heights. n/t
Tarheel_Dem
Feb 2016
#96
One of the podcasts I listen to had a segment that allowed callers to share their experiences workin
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2016
#57
I don't need anymore proof than what you've just told me to know that black folks are nothing....
Tarheel_Dem
Feb 2016
#95
Is "BSr's" a Freudian slip? LOL!! BTW, the Bernie volunteer called back into the program...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2016
#99
If you know who would pay attention to what you have said here for months, if it
randys1
Feb 2016
#4
They are all too busy high fiving idiotic videos that deliberately antogonize black people
Number23
Feb 2016
#7
It almost seems like they'd rather "be right" than see Bernie actually win.
PragmaticLiberal
Feb 2016
#93
Related: "among the 9 percent of non-white Democratic caucus-goers in Iowa on Monday...
Number23
Feb 2016
#13
"Clinton beat Sanders among union households by 9 points, undercutting some conventional wisdom"
Number23
Feb 2016
#63
The part where there is a question of how Bernie is going to pay for it....
Spitfire of ATJ
Feb 2016
#22
I keep hearing that if you're not on that BS bus, you're a low information voter!
MADem
Feb 2016
#16
I don't see how anyone Black or otherwise could have not known about Sanders in Iowa by 2/1
Starry Messenger
Feb 2016
#17
And that's exactly the point. Black people did know about Sanders and still voted for Hillary, even
Number23
Feb 2016
#20
Or if they were Simon & Garfunkel fans they still might have wondered how that related to
Cha
Feb 2016
#41
That's the point! Most black folks aren't too peachy on Hillary. The enthusiasm in the black
Number23
Feb 2016
#21
Black voters are very intelligent, informed and savvy - we're also very fair and don't like seeing
Empowerer
Feb 2016
#37
If Obama would have ran on a socialist platform and call for political revolution
FrenchieCat
Feb 2016
#24
Absolutely brilliant - even more so than usual, Frenchie! You should publish this!
Empowerer
Feb 2016
#38
Can you imagine Obama having even one of piece of history that is seen as "quirky" in Bernie?
Empowerer
Feb 2016
#39
Nothing good comes from alot of HIGH post count folks that have been straggling in here lately
Number23
Feb 2016
#100
Black voters are inured to being treated like crap while white voters won't tolerate such treatment?
Empowerer
Feb 2016
#72
Didn't you know? Black folks are super-human and don't feel pain like white folks!
1StrongBlackMan
Feb 2016
#76
Just to be clear: you're actually explicitly telling black voters what black voters feel?
Recursion
Feb 2016
#84
Coming off from a temporary ban because I dared to assert how arrogant Sanders' fans are...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2016
#56
I've never seen anything like them either. And you are at least the 4th black Sanders supporter
Number23
Feb 2016
#62
I think many feel that Bernie doesn't really care that much about issues affecting African Americans
DCBob
Feb 2016
#102
Did most DU AAs vote in IA primary!?!? It's like they said everything we said for the last 6 months
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#107
But according to conventional DU "wisdom," we don't know/understand/represent our OWN DAMN
Number23
Feb 2016
#109