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wildeyed

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26. Well he was very liberal on poverty issues,
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:15 PM
Feb 2016

at least white poverty. I am clearly not a scholar, but my sense with Civil Rights is that he wanted to do it, but maybe because of his ego and his recklessness more than compassion. He said, if I recall, and I paraphrase, This will be the crowning achievement of my political career. No politician has ever done something this huge before. And he also understood how the electoral math worked. He wanted the black votes the deal would bring, but he know he was trading a bunch of white votes to get that.

LBJ was a bare knuckle, badass politicker. Love him or hate him, he knew how to get a deal done. I think he was enamored of the challenge of doing the deal, of bending so many other politicians to his will, as much as anything. And it was in line with his overall policies too. He did care about the poor. But remember it was a War on Poverty. LBJ was a fighter, for sure.....

I have been thinking about him and FDR recently, how they both passed huge, earth shaking, liberal policies, but were also incredibly ego driven and hawkish on foreign policy. FDR gets a pass because WW2 was the right side of history. But he wanted war very much earlier than most. Interesting to contrast with the anti-war view of many modern progressives.

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It si so sicking to see what is happening here on DU. riversedge Feb 2016 #1
Very definitely a double standard and BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #2
These are my OPs that were alerted and hidden: Empowerer Feb 2016 #5
Having these hidden is ridiculous. BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #9
I am a Sanders supporter. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #10
thanks for your feedback Empowerer Feb 2016 #19
Question: Did anyone venture an answer before the OPs were hidden? If not, ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #21
A few tried, but mostly it was attacks on Hillary and her supporters Empowerer Feb 2016 #23
You have done nothing JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #3
Glad to see another LBJ fan here. senz Feb 2016 #13
I'm no LBJ fan JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #14
I liked LBJ because he cared about the poor and PoC. senz Feb 2016 #15
I don't see the "solid" JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #17
There's a difference between "supporting" and "fighting for" civil rights Empowerer Feb 2016 #20
This is the crux for me. wildeyed Feb 2016 #24
Someone called him that? gollygee Feb 2016 #25
Yup Empowerer Feb 2016 #27
Were LBJ's domestic policies, with respect to Black people ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #22
Well he was very liberal on poverty issues, wildeyed Feb 2016 #26
Well, you've been alerted on gollygee Feb 2016 #4
It doesn't take long, does it? Empowerer Feb 2016 #6
They're obviously watching this group and alerting on whatever they can gollygee Feb 2016 #7
Jury results! gollygee Feb 2016 #11
Unfucking believable JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #16
The jury system is out of control Lisa D Feb 2016 #8
Has been for months. Almost every single hide I have had has been when I call randys1 Feb 2016 #12
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