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TreasonousBastard

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Thu Mar 24, 2016, 10:17 AM Mar 2016

What, or who, is Black? [View all]

I know this has been brought up in many different ways over the years, but I have to apologize for having some confusion remaining.

One of my favorite TV shows is Larry Wilmore's Nightly Show. He talks a lot about being black, but I wouldn't know if he didn't tell me. Same with Robin Thede. Granted that skin color is not the defining characteristic, but what is?

I have no intention of arguing with either of them, but how or why do they choose black? And since our President is mixed race, why is he automatically black, not white? Why are some light-skinned mixed race people dismissed as "passing"?

I hope I'm not opening some raw wounds here, but I am genuinely flummoxed about this. It seems to have a lot to do with history and seeing the descendants of slaves as a group separate from Africans, or black Hispanics. A cultural distinction more than a strictly racial one. Perhaps also some pride in being a part of a group. Oppressed rather than oppressor?

Many of us grew up in the days of legalized racism and my mother told me she was mortified when as a small child I saw my first black person and exclaimed "Look at the chocolate man." Apparently, my mother spent some time apologizing to him. There are scars from those days that can't be erased and how much of what remains of those days still haunts our choices?

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What, or who, is Black? [View all] TreasonousBastard Mar 2016 OP
The Dominant Culture JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #1
What race do you think Larry Wilmore is? La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2016 #2
My mulatto Jewish Jamaican grandfather emigrated riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #6
I think Wilmore is who he wants to be... TreasonousBastard Mar 2016 #8
Nowadays, that DNA can tell you pretty much, within a fairly tight region, of where you come from. MADem Mar 2016 #19
I found this article interesting yesphan Mar 2016 #3
Differs from the US JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #4
Not just Brazil, but the Spanish conquistadors were also... TreasonousBastard Mar 2016 #10
Schtupping or raping? JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #13
Black is an imposed social identity, not a color. .. kwassa Mar 2016 #5
I've known about the "one drop rule" for years... TreasonousBastard Mar 2016 #7
Where do people make a choice? JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #9
Sometimes, you just have to make a choice... TreasonousBastard Mar 2016 #11
In my case - my choice JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #12
This is so interesting to me because I never had a choice to make Quayblue Mar 2016 #16
Compassion for her JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #17
I think it's "ethnic pride" owing to cultural touchstones. It's not foisted--it's clutched. MADem Mar 2016 #20
Yet in the Calabrese immigrant community JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #21
My Bi Racial GrandMother NOLALady Mar 2016 #14
Here is the book I was talking about. kwassa Mar 2016 #15
You might want to check out "Young Larry" and see if you can tell what race he is.... MADem Mar 2016 #18
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