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In reply to the discussion: Why did Sanders wait until we have a black president to cast blame and start his "revolution"? [View all]secondwind
(16,903 posts)12. I think he has been fighting the good fight for decades... why he waited til now to bring it to the
forefront? I guess we'd have to ask him.
I've seen some incredible videos of his speeches on the Senate floor, going back decades... he's been out there... I think it's more like "enough is enough" already. that is how I see it. Can Hillary win the South? I don't think so.. it's gotten so much WORSE, that I have to agree with you, why didn't he (WE) start this revolution earlier?
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Why did Sanders wait until we have a black president to cast blame and start his "revolution"? [View all]
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
OP
Actually he dosnt have a point. He is just stating his fantasies and imaginations as facts. eom.
Jemmons
Apr 2016
#13
I'm very much a "girl". And what facts have I gotten wrong? Please do tell in your infinite wisdom.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#21
It's called drawing a conclusion from the facts that ARE in evidence. Now ...
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2016
#46
I suspect that you know this. But in case you dont: If you had paid attention you would not have
Jemmons
Apr 2016
#50
Look: You have been member here a long long time. I dont understand your choice
Jemmons
Apr 2016
#58
Do you then honestly think that anyone would care to call Sanders a racist if he wasnt running for
Jemmons
Apr 2016
#64
You are posting in the African American Group. I started this OP in the AA Group. We here have had
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#101
Liberal_Stalwart has made it crystal DAMNED clear in her OP what her concerns are
Number23
Apr 2016
#121
No, I was asking a question, which I think is a valid question. Why did Sanders wait until NOW
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#70
Two Issues: First, timing -- why is Bernie Sanders Running Now? and Second, Bernie Sanders on race
cloudythescribbler
Apr 2016
#114
I am from MA, and as of 2004, Kennedy was the more progressive senator
cloudythescribbler
Apr 2016
#172
Oh yeah, most of his constituents are white. All the more reason why he doesn't deserve the votes
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#71
Liberal_Stalwart has been and even in this OP is as critical of Hillary as she is of Sanders
Number23
Apr 2016
#122
He's been awfully timid with his revolution from 1968 until Obama became President
beastie boy
Apr 2016
#44
Thank you! My criticism of BS is similar to that of Nader. He didn't build a party, even as an
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#69
Thank you. They are feigning ignorance. They know damn well what I'm talking about. ;)
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#154
The point again: He should have been building relationships with black voters for all those years.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#72
Fuck that! Being a senator from Vermont does not mean that he could not have begun building
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#157
Sanders loves to point to Medicare/caid and Social Security as two very successful socialist
stopbush
Apr 2016
#113
I guess it's the same reason he sends out his Naderite surrogates like Paul Song, Susan
Tanuki
Apr 2016
#5
Yeah, I know. I'm going to vote today. When I stated that April 26th can't come fast enough...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#8
Much appreciated. Thank you so much for being honest and fair. You stated some points that attracted
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#10
Bernie didn't start his revolution in 2008. He's been at it a long time.
All in it together
Apr 2016
#24
Again, if he did have a revolution, that didn't involve black voters. WHY? Black voters, by and
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#73
Ding...ding..ding! That whole West and Smiley endorsement raised red flags for me! Sour grapes!n/t
KelleyD
Apr 2016
#110
Be careful the last person to say they never saw him got attacked horrendously.
Amimnoch
Apr 2016
#27
I think he has been fighting the good fight for decades... why he waited til now to bring it to the
secondwind
Apr 2016
#12
I've followed Sanders' career for decades myself, always in awe of him and jealous that other Dems
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#17
He was less known NOW! What's the difference? If one is a change agent, one is a change agent
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#18
He has NOT done that. Not at all. If he did, more black people would know him. And I have been
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#22
It's your opinion. I won't go into this, but I worked on Capitol Hill for several decades.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#76
A "Washington Insider" or the vast majority of black and Hispanic voters in every single primary
Number23
Apr 2016
#123
LOL!! If I'm a Washington Insider, then Bernie is, too! He's been in this town a lot longer than I.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#155
Since you've followed Bernie's career so closely since he first arrived in Washington
tk2kewl
Apr 2016
#162
Your reading skills are quite subpar. Again, if Sanders cared so much about black folk, he
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#163
What evidence? He fucking marched and was arrested. So fucking what??
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#165
According to you. He think he and his surrogates have issued subtle bigoted statements. Yes. Is he a
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#19
One can use dog whistle tactics that are racially insensitive in nature and not necessarily be a
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#78
I think he's made subtle and explicit racist statements about black voters in the American South.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#81
Paul Wellstone and Denis Kucinich were indeed revolutionaries. Sanders just yelled and screamed
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#85
I'm so sorry the BSrs Hid you out of your own thread in the AA Group, LS! Now I know
Cha
Apr 2016
#196
This OP is about Bernie Sanders. If you can't answer the question, that's o.k. Sanders can't either.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#86
Aloha, pandr.. I just made a post that I know now she can't respond to b/c BSrs Hid her out of her
Cha
Apr 2016
#197
till the Black president brought this country to a stable situation, no one would risk a revolution
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#37
Come on, we both know why. And just FYI "the revolution".....it's bullshit.
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2016
#39
...and yet, you didn't answer the OP's question. Didn't even attempt. Just resorts to bashing the
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#88
If you shit on black voters and the black president, you will lose. Sanders is learning this lesson.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#158
What does citizens united have to do with the black president? And you proved my point...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#89
There is so much wrong with your post, I don't know where to start. Then I saw how many hides
FailureToCommunicate
Apr 2016
#51
I don't give a damn about HIDES! Don't be silly or childish. I speak my mind.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#90
Your response just confirms what I wrote. Were you too busy to read it? That's fine, I can
FailureToCommunicate
Apr 2016
#120
Typical. This post is about Sanders. Not Hillary. If you can't direct your comments to the OP, then
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#140
I would say this group doesnt have to look far at all to find racist intent, not with
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#62
"but the reason she does has much more to do with those surrounding and supporting Berne"
Number23
Apr 2016
#124
Since we disgust and bother you so much, PLEASE don't feel like you have to come here and respond
Number23
Apr 2016
#125
I dont agree or believe Bernie is responding now because Obama is black, but I do
Actor
Apr 2016
#112
The president accomplished so much more than most people realize, and he did so in
Actor
Apr 2016
#119
Brilliant, brilliant analysis!!! I love this! Truthful, honest and reasonable.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#91
You only have 22 posts, sweetheart. You know nothing about me. But, carry on...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#93
That old "he marched with MLK" crap has been tossed around so much as some sort of substitute for
Number23
Apr 2016
#149
I'm sorry the 60's civil rights movement doesn't carry much water for you
davenelson5555
Apr 2016
#150
The idea that someone doing the "he marched with MLK while Hillary was a Goldwater girl" spiel
Number23
Apr 2016
#167
Sanders marching was admirable but I don't understand why you are acting like what he
Number23
Apr 2016
#170
He did more than simply join the March on Washington, but you know that.
davenelson5555
Apr 2016
#171
"chained, beaten and arrested" too bad that only one of those things is actually true
Number23
Apr 2016
#175
No one has said his reactions aren't worth a damn. But his actions don't make him some great
Number23
Apr 2016
#180
He should have run against the president in 2012. He was calling for him to be primaried. Why not
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#97
Sanders has no respect for President Obama and wants to throw away Obama's legacy
Gothmog
Apr 2016
#98
Hmmmm....interesting. What an opportune time, then. Welp, good luck to him, then.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#104
I don't think Bernie is racist. I do think some of his campaign people and many of his . . .
brush
Apr 2016
#115
Why did Occupy Wall Street wait until we had a black prez to organize against greed and corruption?
Dems to Win
Apr 2016
#117
He already answered. Told me that my family's vote in the American South mean nothing.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#183
The "Southern votes don't count but YEAARRRGGH Wyoming!!11" posts would give any thinking person
Number23
Apr 2016
#131
Yes !! If Sanders had any real track record of leading people wouldn't have to get to know him
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#147
An intelligent response! Thank you! I used to listen to "Brunch with Bernie" for years. I purchased
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#139
DING DING DING !! I posted something similar to this before reading this thread. GREAT MINDS!!!
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#143
I thought he probably thought it was a good time because of Occupy Wall Street
gollygee
Apr 2016
#146
What utter bullshit! The idea that Bernie announced at this time because Obama is AA.
Akamai
Apr 2016
#156
Ask Sanders to build his coalition of blacks, Hispanics, women and people of all walks of life...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#160
"The cradle of the Civil Rights Movement is in the American South." PREACH IT!! TELL THESE PEOPLE
Number23
Apr 2016
#168
He made a ton of mistakes. Too many of his most ardent followers or supporters look and sound
Actor
Apr 2016
#182
You wrote: And, I think most anger at him, like in this thread, is actually at his supporters.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#184
I completely understand. Maybe i discounted the alienation done by Bernie himself, whether
Actor
Apr 2016
#185
Interesting, huh, the president who was successful in getting healthcare through congress, go figure
Thinkingabout
Apr 2016
#176
Less to do with Obama being black and shifting to the right significantly after "Hope & Change"
aikoaiko
Apr 2016
#187
That he blames Obama for not deliverings "effective" Hope and Change the way YOU and Sanders wanted
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2016
#191
when I have time I will, but even if she hates Clintons with the heat of a 1000 suns
aikoaiko
Apr 2016
#204
Excellent Question, LS.. and one the members of The Obama Diary have been asking, too.
Cha
Apr 2016
#195
Listen, we all thought Obama would govern like a Progressive, those who believed in him anyway,
highprincipleswork
Apr 2016
#203
First of all, thank you for your kind words. I feel a little silly, because I did not fully realize
highprincipleswork
Apr 2016
#209
Oh boo hoo.. President Obama is Progressive. Progressive means getting things done and that's
Cha
Apr 2016
#208
I know, DP.. they all have the same mantra.. "disappointed".. BS actually used that word when
Cha
Apr 2016
#214
His actual success, especially in light of the outrageous obstruction, is monumental.
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#212