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In reply to the discussion: Hillary Clinton has basically won the nomination - and a big reason for that is Black voters [View all]JustAnotherGen
(38,062 posts)83. Too late for this election
You are just going to have to accept that.
From your link:
White Democrats in particular increasingly characterize their political views as liberal, while blacks and Hispanics are far less likely to embrace that description. In 2015, half of white Democratic and Democratic-leaning registered voters called themselves liberals, up 22 percentage points since 2000 (28%).
*I wonder if this has to do with the recent findings that white men are falling into the same death traps black Americans have found themselves caught in for 150 years?*
Democratic voters with higher levels of education are more likely to call themselves liberals than are those with less education. Last year, a majority of Democratic voters with postgraduate experience (58%) described their political views as liberal, up 14 points since 2000. Among Democratic college graduates with no postgraduate experience, 53% described their views as liberal, an increase of 16 points since 2000. Fewer Democratic voters with some college experience but no degree (37%) and those with no college experience (33%) characterized their political views as liberal
*Now let's talk about red lining*
White America at the behest of their hero FDR deliberately and maliciously allowed red lining.
This caused black Americans to fall behind in not only access to better housing (and thus public schools) but also in creating intergenerational wealth.
Lack of access to superior public schools (by default white neighborhoods and communities) and the inabilit to pay for college/university means you will won't have as many blacks in that 'college educated' demographic' . . . which is more 'liberal'.
By contrast, more black and Hispanic Democratic voters characterized their views as moderate than liberal in 2015, and the self-described political views of both groups have remained stable in recent years. Last year, 42% of black Democrats called themselves moderates, 29% said they were conservatives and 27% called themselves liberals. Among Hispanic Democrats, 39% described their political views as moderate, 35% as liberal and 24% as conservative.
*Looks like it is remaining stable. I think from a black perspective - being 'out there' means you could lose small and big gains. There's an old Wanda Sykes skit where she jokes "the white people are watching". Respectability in the White American Gaze means you have to conduct yourself in a certain way - whether dealing with a police officer or a retail store sales clerk who makes a 1/10th of what you make.
What's REALLY been funny to me this election? With all the hair pulling and teeth gnashing and 'oh woe is us' nonsense?
How LITTLE the average white American knows about black Americans. Because white is the default setting - the 'Dominant Culture' - we know a great deal about White America - but they know next to nothing about us.
So all of the studies, positing, theories, concepts, bullying, smugness, etc. etc. still makes me giggle quite a bit because many of these folks have no idea how we live.
I know I've shared this back here before to positive agreement from quite a few members - but what has stumped white liberals/progressives at DU (especially among millenials) is the influence of elders (gen x, boomers, and silents) on black millenials. Our Sunday Dinner is different than other race/ethnic groups in America. It's not uncommon for a poverty/line working poor family member to break bread with a middle class, affluent, rich, and wealthy family member. I also think what is lost on white America is the idea of the wealthier tiers of black America being resentful of their tax dollars going for the Greater Good - as opposed to being able to help MY FAMILY FIRST.
Traditionally these 'liberal money grabs' such as social security (look it up) and territorial wealth building schemes (red Lining) have taken money and resources in the form of taxation from the black community while only being used for other communities.
The 'conservative' comes in terms of financial - and truthfully - no -
I didn't agree with Bernie Sanders taxing me another 30K a year when we ensure that all of our aunts and uncles (90's, 80's, 70's) have everything that they need - that they aren't eating cat food - especially since in my family with the exception of one uncle - it's all elderly black women that white America deliberately paid less because it was 'funny' who now receive less in social security.
I'm conservative that way - Charity begins at home and in my own back yard.
But I suspect you can't wrap your head around that concept . . .
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Hillary Clinton has basically won the nomination - and a big reason for that is Black voters [View all]
YoungDemCA
Apr 2016
OP
Yep! You can't win the Dem nomination without the black vote and votes of other POCs
brush
Apr 2016
#1
He never followed up on that. He retreated to Vermont for what 40, some years . . .
brush
Apr 2016
#9
Do you want some cheese with that whine? Or a cookie for your grand deeds of being a
Number23
Apr 2016
#61
We don't have respect for a person who participate in a walk 50 yrs ago and thought he was done.
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#110
Perhaps, we just missed all those Bernie led, Vermont Civil Rights protest marches.
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2016
#30
"I find Spike Lee one of the most intelligent black people in the nation, is it coincidence
lunamagica
Apr 2016
#41
You know how I said upthread another post was easily the moronic thing I've seen on DU for a minute?
Number23
Apr 2016
#62
Well I'm sure he's met every single black person in America and has administered some kind of
gollygee
Apr 2016
#68
You must not pass the "smart black people" test, despite your education and career
gollygee
Apr 2016
#79
His wife, Tonya Lewis Lee, is just as smart.. Oh, I think President Obama is The most intelligent
Cha
May 2016
#170
And they ignored POC in spite of the best efforts of POC to let them know the Sanders campaign
Squinch
May 2016
#130
Yes. Which wasn't what they said it was, and which wasn't substantively different from what
Squinch
May 2016
#142
I am guilty of admitting I am curious how Bernie will handle this and how will Hillary
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#2
Your privilege is showing. By the way, Hillary can win without the Occupy bunch. Obama did. n/t
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2016
#88
That poster could not get anymore insulting or Wrong if she tried.. or maybe she could but I'm
Cha
May 2016
#172
I would think you would know that Black voters are quite liberal and a key part of our party's base
YoungDemCA
Apr 2016
#17
Ironic-- your excuse seems rather indicative of a 'low information voter.'
LanternWaste
May 2016
#184
I have spent the entire day arguing with what seems to be HUNDREDS of DU posters
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#56
I suspect that's because you don't seem to mind sharing the world with ...
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2016
#75
you are clearly more informed than me on your own personal world view, AA's as a whole...
thebeautifulstruggle
Apr 2016
#102
Thanks so much for this post...great examples and illustrations that I hope the reader comprehends.
Digital Puppy
Apr 2016
#113
And yet, it has never been black folks that have voted in record numbers to deny the rights
Number23
Apr 2016
#87
Or would stay home if they dont get their way. Those saying they will do not deserve
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#90
It's just Part 75 in the blacks aren't liberal/pure/smart enough bullshit that this board is steeped
Number23
Apr 2016
#96
you are forgetting AA's helping to deny the rights of gays in California
thebeautifulstruggle
Apr 2016
#98
You forget Elsa Prince-Broekhuizen and the The Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons)
JustAnotherGen
Apr 2016
#100
fair enough, though there are other AA's that have a completeldifferent version of that relationship
thebeautifulstruggle
May 2016
#141
As usual, black folks are 20% of the voting population but for some reason...
Number23
Apr 2016
#112
I'm talking about your idiotic assertion that black people were responsible for the passage of Prop8
Number23
May 2016
#163
I had no doubt you'd trot out that old line that was debunked with 18 minutes of analysis
Number23
Apr 2016
#111
I thought that had been debunked all those years ago.. Mahalo for the reminder, 23.. so that myth
Cha
May 2016
#169
i am not the one or part of the group that self-identified as more conservative
thebeautifulstruggle
May 2016
#143
Yup. And we didn't have to attend a yyyuuuugggeee rally to accomplish it either.
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2016
#86
so you're saying, if he just had a POC explaining his message at first
thebeautifulstruggle
May 2016
#129
I reject the notion that a message should have to be framed specifically to different audiences
thebeautifulstruggle
May 2016
#145
"it's either true and righteous or it isn't, regardless of the demographic"
Digital Puppy
May 2016
#160
he needed a POC to inform him that issues he hoped to set aside were indeed very important.
bettyellen
May 2016
#182
Apparently, you don't need to be careful of what you wish for. Because he lost.
Squinch
May 2016
#144
Hillary is the nominee, that process is all but over. Bernie knows it and since the cause
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#177