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In reply to the discussion: Hillary Clinton has basically won the nomination - and a big reason for that is Black voters [View all]JustAnotherGen
(38,120 posts)100. You forget Elsa Prince-Broekhuizen and the The Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons)
Involvement in that.
They had the money and the power.
A Portrait of Christian Hate: Prop 8's Elsa Prince of Michigan
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/1/667005/-
Erik Princes mom gives $450,000 to stop same-sex marriage
By Laurie Bennett
http://news.muckety.com/2008/10/29/erik-princes-mom-gives-450000-to-stop-same-sex-marriage/6231
Elsa Prince, Mother of Blackwater Founder, Was Fourth Largest Prop 8 Donor
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/11/17/elsa-prince-blackwater-matriarch-prop-8-donor/
Mormon Church Prop 8
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/mormon-church-prop-8/
Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/15/us/politics/15marriage.html?_r=0
SACRAMENTO Less than two weeks before Election Day, the chief strategist behind a ballot measure outlawing same-sex marriage in California called an emergency meeting here.
Were going to lose this campaign if we dont get more money, the strategist, Frank Schubert, recalled telling leaders of Protect Marriage, the main group behind the ban.
The campaign issued an urgent appeal, and in a matter of days, it raised more than $5 million, including a $1 million donation from Alan C. Ashton, the grandson of a former president of the Mormon Church. The money allowed the drive to intensify a sharp-elbowed advertising campaign, and support for the measure was catapulted ahead; it ultimately won with 52 percent of the vote.
As proponents of same-sex marriage across the country planned protests on Saturday against the ban, interviews with the main forces behind the ballot measure showed how close its backers believe it came to defeat and the extraordinary role Mormons played in helping to pass it with money, institutional support and dedicated volunteers.
Were going to lose this campaign if we dont get more money, the strategist, Frank Schubert, recalled telling leaders of Protect Marriage, the main group behind the ban.
The campaign issued an urgent appeal, and in a matter of days, it raised more than $5 million, including a $1 million donation from Alan C. Ashton, the grandson of a former president of the Mormon Church. The money allowed the drive to intensify a sharp-elbowed advertising campaign, and support for the measure was catapulted ahead; it ultimately won with 52 percent of the vote.
As proponents of same-sex marriage across the country planned protests on Saturday against the ban, interviews with the main forces behind the ballot measure showed how close its backers believe it came to defeat and the extraordinary role Mormons played in helping to pass it with money, institutional support and dedicated volunteers.
So that said - what is your purpose back here? To break alliances? Because I stand with BehindTheAegis, La Lioness, etc. etc. I've also stated several times we (black Americans) cannot back down. It's not time to retreat - it's time to reload.
We WROTE the playbook for other marginalized groups. If we drop the ball - there will be many groups that lose who have thankfully been able to piggy back off the efforts of the mid 20th century black civil rights movement.
What is your intent in being in the group?
Your response was to a group host (Number23) and you are getting another response from a Group Host.
What is your intent?
Throw elbows?
Put us 'knee grows' in our place?
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Hillary Clinton has basically won the nomination - and a big reason for that is Black voters [View all]
YoungDemCA
Apr 2016
OP
Yep! You can't win the Dem nomination without the black vote and votes of other POCs
brush
Apr 2016
#1
He never followed up on that. He retreated to Vermont for what 40, some years . . .
brush
Apr 2016
#9
Do you want some cheese with that whine? Or a cookie for your grand deeds of being a
Number23
Apr 2016
#61
We don't have respect for a person who participate in a walk 50 yrs ago and thought he was done.
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#110
Perhaps, we just missed all those Bernie led, Vermont Civil Rights protest marches.
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2016
#30
"I find Spike Lee one of the most intelligent black people in the nation, is it coincidence
lunamagica
Apr 2016
#41
You know how I said upthread another post was easily the moronic thing I've seen on DU for a minute?
Number23
Apr 2016
#62
Well I'm sure he's met every single black person in America and has administered some kind of
gollygee
Apr 2016
#68
You must not pass the "smart black people" test, despite your education and career
gollygee
Apr 2016
#79
His wife, Tonya Lewis Lee, is just as smart.. Oh, I think President Obama is The most intelligent
Cha
May 2016
#170
And they ignored POC in spite of the best efforts of POC to let them know the Sanders campaign
Squinch
May 2016
#130
Yes. Which wasn't what they said it was, and which wasn't substantively different from what
Squinch
May 2016
#142
I am guilty of admitting I am curious how Bernie will handle this and how will Hillary
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#2
Your privilege is showing. By the way, Hillary can win without the Occupy bunch. Obama did. n/t
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2016
#88
That poster could not get anymore insulting or Wrong if she tried.. or maybe she could but I'm
Cha
May 2016
#172
I would think you would know that Black voters are quite liberal and a key part of our party's base
YoungDemCA
Apr 2016
#17
Ironic-- your excuse seems rather indicative of a 'low information voter.'
LanternWaste
May 2016
#184
I have spent the entire day arguing with what seems to be HUNDREDS of DU posters
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#56
I suspect that's because you don't seem to mind sharing the world with ...
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2016
#75
you are clearly more informed than me on your own personal world view, AA's as a whole...
thebeautifulstruggle
Apr 2016
#102
Thanks so much for this post...great examples and illustrations that I hope the reader comprehends.
Digital Puppy
Apr 2016
#113
And yet, it has never been black folks that have voted in record numbers to deny the rights
Number23
Apr 2016
#87
Or would stay home if they dont get their way. Those saying they will do not deserve
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#90
It's just Part 75 in the blacks aren't liberal/pure/smart enough bullshit that this board is steeped
Number23
Apr 2016
#96
you are forgetting AA's helping to deny the rights of gays in California
thebeautifulstruggle
Apr 2016
#98
You forget Elsa Prince-Broekhuizen and the The Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons)
JustAnotherGen
Apr 2016
#100
fair enough, though there are other AA's that have a completeldifferent version of that relationship
thebeautifulstruggle
May 2016
#141
As usual, black folks are 20% of the voting population but for some reason...
Number23
Apr 2016
#112
I'm talking about your idiotic assertion that black people were responsible for the passage of Prop8
Number23
May 2016
#163
I had no doubt you'd trot out that old line that was debunked with 18 minutes of analysis
Number23
Apr 2016
#111
I thought that had been debunked all those years ago.. Mahalo for the reminder, 23.. so that myth
Cha
May 2016
#169
i am not the one or part of the group that self-identified as more conservative
thebeautifulstruggle
May 2016
#143
Yup. And we didn't have to attend a yyyuuuugggeee rally to accomplish it either.
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2016
#86
so you're saying, if he just had a POC explaining his message at first
thebeautifulstruggle
May 2016
#129
I reject the notion that a message should have to be framed specifically to different audiences
thebeautifulstruggle
May 2016
#145
"it's either true and righteous or it isn't, regardless of the demographic"
Digital Puppy
May 2016
#160
he needed a POC to inform him that issues he hoped to set aside were indeed very important.
bettyellen
May 2016
#182
Apparently, you don't need to be careful of what you wish for. Because he lost.
Squinch
May 2016
#144
Hillary is the nominee, that process is all but over. Bernie knows it and since the cause
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#177