Hillary Clinton has basically won the nomination - and a big reason for that is Black voters

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161. Of COURSE I believe that the rights of LGBT

belong under the umbrella of Civil Rights. And most black Civil Rights leaders do too. And when the rights of LGBT are framed as a Civil Rights issue, not a religious issue, then so do black Americans. The vote in NC proves this.

So what I get from that is NOT that blacks are more conservative, but that highly RELIGIOUS voters are more conservative. And it seems that black religious voters CAN be persuaded to vote against LGBT bigotry when leaders take the time to figure out what their issues are and frame the debate in a way that addresses their concerns.

So I do not accept your assertion that black voters are conservative. Religious voters tend to be more conservative on LGBT issues, and a higher percentage of blacks are religious than whites. BUT black religious voters are very able to get over their personal bias once they figure out that attacks on LGBT are also attacks on ALL civil rights.

And as far as your opinion, the "self-identified" moderates (and I have already posted, in detail, why I think that doesn't mean anything) voted for Obama, the non-establishment candidate, last time. He was the better candidate and earned more votes. Hillary Clinton was better this time. That is why SHE earned the most votes. Bernie Sanders ran a poor campaign, particularly his outreach to black voters. And that is on Bernie Sanders and nobody else.