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In reply to the discussion: Have you noticed these two patterns? [View all]Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)56. "When the attacks get to the level of attacking those
who support this or that candidate, going beyond even ad hominem attacks on the candidate, that is a new plane of ugly." Can't disagree with that and exactly how I feel.
...there will be recriminations all around. Bernie Sanders' supporters, not having any GE campaign with him as the nominee, would blame those who supported Hillary in the primaries, saying "I told you so" while Hillary Clinton's supporters from the primaries (and some others of opportunistic bent) will heap blame on the Left (as always), that not all the Sanderistas lined up behind Hillary.
Well, the reason for the OP is that I've seen so little of the latter so far. I believe it will happen if trump is elected that some HRC supporters will cast blame, too. But my main concern is that specifically PoC get automatically and erroneously blamed again and again. And I'm sick of that we constantly have to correct so many white liberals who are not above their conservative brothers in casting immediate blame for whatever the problem du jour is.
"I doubt many DUers at all will actually vote for or support Trump."
I'm not really concerned about that. But just wanted to, as stated above, start the discussion about what happens again and again. This time, why on Earth would a liberal even nurse the feeling of blaming/punishing by wishing for a president trump when it comes to us? My point is get your feelings in check now if you - not you personally - hope for any progress. Identity politics is here to stay and unites more than it divides. I believe this is just the beginning of the changes we all hope for.
...there will be recriminations all around. Bernie Sanders' supporters, not having any GE campaign with him as the nominee, would blame those who supported Hillary in the primaries, saying "I told you so" while Hillary Clinton's supporters from the primaries (and some others of opportunistic bent) will heap blame on the Left (as always), that not all the Sanderistas lined up behind Hillary.
Well, the reason for the OP is that I've seen so little of the latter so far. I believe it will happen if trump is elected that some HRC supporters will cast blame, too. But my main concern is that specifically PoC get automatically and erroneously blamed again and again. And I'm sick of that we constantly have to correct so many white liberals who are not above their conservative brothers in casting immediate blame for whatever the problem du jour is.
"I doubt many DUers at all will actually vote for or support Trump."
I'm not really concerned about that. But just wanted to, as stated above, start the discussion about what happens again and again. This time, why on Earth would a liberal even nurse the feeling of blaming/punishing by wishing for a president trump when it comes to us? My point is get your feelings in check now if you - not you personally - hope for any progress. Identity politics is here to stay and unites more than it divides. I believe this is just the beginning of the changes we all hope for.
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When you back a losing candidate who runs a lousy campaign and never corrects course...
KittyWampus
May 2016
#19
it was in favor of the democrat who has won 2 state primaries, and was secretary of the state
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2016
#46
It is a very tricky question, but in terms of timing, but dramatic shift BEFORE Iowa is clear
cloudythescribbler
May 2016
#35
notion of how identity politics UNITES more than it divides is VERY important
cloudythescribbler
May 2016
#66
Black people are to blame, for everything, but you know that already. (sarcasm)
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#34
some people have the luxury to stand by to let Trump win, just to say I told you so
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2016
#45