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Recursion

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2. At the risk of being That Guy With Charts, here are some data backing this up:
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:18 AM
May 2016

I paid for Matlab; I might as well use it.

Here's the poorest three black and white quintiles, over the past half-century.



Similarly, here are male and female median incomes over the same period.



A few things stand out:

1. The narrative of "stagnant wages" seems to mean "white male wages are somewhat stagnated while women's and PoC's wages at least begin to catch up".

2. The second-poorest black quintile is roughly making as much as the poorest white quintile nowadays. They caught up in the 1990s. You know, that "economy that didn't help wages". Ditto the third-poorest black quintile and the second-poorest white quintile -- honestly the extent to which they now match up is kind of eerie.

3. Although the poorest 20% of whites are making more than 40% of African Americans*, they still feel cheated by rising AA incomes, because they're making roughly what they made in 1971 while African Americans are making significantly more than they were in 1971, at all income levels. They look at those wages as "theirs", and want them "back".

3a. When white people talk about wanting stuff "back", nothing good ever comes of that...

* (That's not quite what I mean: someone at the 20th percentile of whites is making more than someone at the 40th percentile of African Americans; this more or less extends all the way down, if you make more than N% of whites you generally make more than 2N% of blacks)

People of color rarely have better friends than the Clintons Gman May 2016 #1
Lol...More BOLD FACED Lies billhicks76 May 2016 #4
PLEASE take these tired, boring, talking points out of this group. Number23 May 2016 #15
Remember What Clinton Said About Obama billhicks76 May 2016 #18
So instead of doing as you're asked, you come back and with even more insanity than what you posted Number23 May 2016 #19
Everything billhicks76 May 2016 #20
Blocked From Group Until After The Primary JustAnotherGen May 2016 #27
Yes, Hillary threatening/alluding/openly paying to have Obama assassinated is why Sanders can't win Number23 May 2016 #43
Do you never tire of spewing this shit? Squinch May 2016 #21
That's a pretty big fat lie Gman May 2016 #32
Drug dealers does not equal POC. Just WOW. bettyellen May 2016 #33
friends don't call friends superpredators AntiBank May 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author cliffordu May 2016 #12
Are you serious? Number23 May 2016 #14
Sorry. I'll leave immediately. cliffordu May 2016 #34
"People of color rarely have better friends than the Clintons" I don't know anyone who agrees with Number23 May 2016 #16
At the risk of being That Guy With Charts, here are some data backing this up: Recursion May 2016 #2
Very good data. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #3
Fascinating stuff! YoungDemCA May 2016 #8
I love these. And this: Squinch May 2016 #25
Yes, that stood out to me as well. Nt Raissa May 2016 #28
There is a tiny group of men on here who, when pressed, will admit that Starry Messenger May 2016 #37
Yes. The funniest thing about those guys is that they think they are stealthy. Squinch May 2016 #39
Yes, that is grimly amusing. :D Starry Messenger May 2016 #40
"Grimly amusing" is my new favorite phrase. Squinch May 2016 #41
And the worst thing about it is that they claim to be More-Progressive-Than-Thou YoungDemCA May 2016 #42
the 0.1% is who cooks up divisions to keep us, uh, divided: is this suddenly a controversy? MisterP May 2016 #5
Remind me of which segment of the working class votes Republican in significant numbers YoungDemCA May 2016 #7
What you said. snot May 2016 #13
Fabulous post. Keep this handy and repost it everywhere, please! Squinch May 2016 #24
Damn, YoungDemCA ... Well stated. I especially liked this part ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #50
+1 betsuni May 2016 #51
"sexism and racism are used to make the 99% become enforcers against the rest of the 99%" Number23 May 2016 #17
The bat signal went out: "White male workers are not being given primacy! Attack! Squinch May 2016 #22
Every thread in the AA group ... SaschaHM May 2016 #36
You got that right. And what's so stupid is that these people seem absolutely DETERMINED Number23 May 2016 #44
Now it is JustAnotherGen May 2016 #45
The translation gollygee May 2016 #46
It's never JustAnotherGen May 2016 #47
But it's not just GDP. It's everywhere. The folks that come in drop NUMEROUS turds and then run off Number23 May 2016 #48
One of my blocks today JustAnotherGen May 2016 #49
And let me guess: you don't even understand why your post reveals sexism and racism, do you? Squinch May 2016 #23
The OP Is Absolutely Correct Yallow May 2016 #6
What you said. Wibly May 2016 #9
As a class, they've also taken the biggest decrease in purchasing power Warpy May 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #26
I fear that you are correct Fresh_Start May 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #30
Which candidate newblewtoo May 2016 #31
The White working class votes overwhelmingly Republican ismnotwasm May 2016 #35
Obama won without the white working class vote in 2012. Starry Messenger May 2016 #38
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