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In reply to the discussion: Whiteness, NSA Spying and the Irony of Racial Privilege [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)27. That thread was unbelievable. I saw your response that started the flaming on you here:
68. Democrats that ...would prefer to live under an authoritarian state? Really?
When I read your first sentence, I thought, "Okay" ... then you proceeded to cast the argument, exactly contrary to that first line. And based on what ... not turning a blind eye to the snowden inconsistencies and a refusal to rever him as a national hero? Because some prefer to base their conclusions on FACT under the law, as written; as opposed to speculation and opinion of how the law should be interpreted? Really?
Some of us have known from day one that the American myth never was intended to apply to us and have lived under a system that has never represented our interests, except to further the interests. So with that realization, some of us are not tied to a man or a party, no matter what you wish to to believe ... those of us born as "others" are just quicker to judge but slower to condemn ... Our, literal, lives depended on it.
And those of us born outside of the myth know ... the lesser of two evils (if there is two evils) is the only game in town ... to deny that reality by not voting in/care about Federal/National elections (which BTW is the only mechanism short of revolt to correct the state you detest) is to, both, deny political reality, and to guarantee that you will, not only be subject to the state your detest; but alos subject to the "same, just a tad stronger sauce."
While I understand this matter has people on fire, let's not be consumed.
Then it devolved further. And none of them dared to address what I emboldened in the text, which fits perfectly with what this thread is about. I think too many people have lived in that 'innocence' afforded them to believe that hard choices must be made to save others.
Lives, which, I contend, do not matter to them or they would stop a minute and support those who are actually trying to change things for the better, in a world that has always been unfair. Real people being affected by small decisions,for whom purity is a luxury.
They only use those others as it is inconvenient, never in it for the long haul. You handled the flamers very well, 1SBM.
When I read your first sentence, I thought, "Okay" ... then you proceeded to cast the argument, exactly contrary to that first line. And based on what ... not turning a blind eye to the snowden inconsistencies and a refusal to rever him as a national hero? Because some prefer to base their conclusions on FACT under the law, as written; as opposed to speculation and opinion of how the law should be interpreted? Really?
Some of us have known from day one that the American myth never was intended to apply to us and have lived under a system that has never represented our interests, except to further the interests. So with that realization, some of us are not tied to a man or a party, no matter what you wish to to believe ... those of us born as "others" are just quicker to judge but slower to condemn ... Our, literal, lives depended on it.
And those of us born outside of the myth know ... the lesser of two evils (if there is two evils) is the only game in town ... to deny that reality by not voting in/care about Federal/National elections (which BTW is the only mechanism short of revolt to correct the state you detest) is to, both, deny political reality, and to guarantee that you will, not only be subject to the state your detest; but alos subject to the "same, just a tad stronger sauce."
While I understand this matter has people on fire, let's not be consumed.
Then it devolved further. And none of them dared to address what I emboldened in the text, which fits perfectly with what this thread is about. I think too many people have lived in that 'innocence' afforded them to believe that hard choices must be made to save others.
Lives, which, I contend, do not matter to them or they would stop a minute and support those who are actually trying to change things for the better, in a world that has always been unfair. Real people being affected by small decisions,for whom purity is a luxury.
They only use those others as it is inconvenient, never in it for the long haul. You handled the flamers very well, 1SBM.
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It's still not about me. I wanted additional comment, since your second reply expressed a lot more
freshwest
Mar 2014
#38
That goes without saying, except some people get offended by the truth of it...
freshwest
Mar 2014
#21
Yes, on a daily basis I question being here, haven't been here long, despite my post count.
freshwest
Mar 2014
#23
That thread was unbelievable. I saw your response that started the flaming on you here:
freshwest
Mar 2014
#27
Yes, purity tests are not the traits of survivors, but those who are above that. Since I have in
freshwest
Mar 2014
#34
That's just what I was thinking yesterday. No instant gratification there, nope, there wasn't.
freshwest
Mar 2014
#39