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3. well it is often relative and who you compare them to, i think maybe sanders is to the left
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 08:01 PM
Apr 2014

of obama,but i'm not sure elizabeth warren is. although many internet activists would like to claim so.

i think obama really is more liberal than many may think. but he also understands the system and tries to work it get things done.

i mean, it's easy to hold the most liberal positions and brag about being the most liberal or whatever. but what can you get done, that matters also. in kucnich's time in congress he did not really get anything done.

but obama got things done including helping to get rid of some of the weapons in ukraine from the soviet days. this meant that with the crimea situation one thing that one never had to worry about large scale weapons being used.

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