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heaven05

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101. nothing condescending in that response

Wed Sep 17, 2014, 11:28 AM

Sep 2014

just an understanding of your ignorance of certain REALITIES in american society. Should you gain enough to try to understand the whole fabric of american society, I guarantee, you will understand. "Uppity" has been applied to our current POTUS by some very ignorant and exceedingly stupid people in this country. So since that is true, then a black child can still be seen as "uppity" and end up laying dead in the middle of somestreet, america with ten bullet holes in him/her put there by a state sanctioned murderer who saw that unarmed child as "uppity" and a threat to white supremacy and culture. So yes it is possibly that some black parents have that word in mind when disciplining a child.

Oh, and while viewing that dead body in the street, leave your hooded robe at home.

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To condemn Adrian Peterson without considering racial context ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 OP

I disagree, but you can just assume I am priviledged if you want hollysmom Sep 2014 #1

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #4

I had not thought of those reasons until I read what you said in the OP randys1 Sep 2014 #22

But I want to be clear ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #23

(Gently) -1SBM, a whooping leaves welts, not "whelps". kath Sep 2014 #68

So true ... So true! ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #72

You probably learned "whelp" for it growing up, and you probably still hear it tblue37 Sep 2014 #86

Actually, I think "whelp" has become a dialect variation of "welt." The first time I saw it, tblue37 Sep 2014 #85

Being black and from the Deep South myself, I have to defend my friend 1SBM Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2014 #107

Understood, I am however on record as saying I think a parent never needs to hit randys1 Sep 2014 #91

Violence argument aside ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #92

you still missed the context heaven05 Sep 2014 #79

I understand that. I don't know if that really works or hollysmom Sep 2014 #90

very well written article heaven05 Sep 2014 #98

You don't think this sounds excessive? Wait Wut Sep 2014 #2

if this was done to an adult it would be a major crime, not '"abuse" nt msongs Sep 2014 #5

Exactly. Wait Wut Sep 2014 #6

You got it. LiberalFighter Sep 2014 #10

Abuse of any kind is wrong in any culture. Dawgs Sep 2014 #3

Explaining the historical context isn't really the same thing as defending gollygee Sep 2014 #48

I didn't say he defended it. n/t Dawgs Sep 2014 #75

Nope ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #93

There were a lot of callers, black men from the south, on sports talk radio that were defending it. Dawgs Sep 2014 #96

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #100

well heaven05 Sep 2014 #82

Thanks for your response gollygee Sep 2014 #89

This is a very interesting point of view, and courageous of you to raise this issue. enough Sep 2014 #7

To be honest ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #12

I tipped because it is always best to understand the context from which Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #14

The first thing I thought about when I read about the abuse was this long history of systematic Tumbulu Sep 2014 #24

Thank you for attempting to understand ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #25

Well, you did a beautiful job of writing these posts in a way that encourages Tumbulu Sep 2014 #29

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #30

Is condemnation of Ray Rice without racial context similarly privileged? n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #8

No. There is no historical context to an adult hitting another adult. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #13

"Historical context"? lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #17

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #20

We are all aware that this culture NOLALady Sep 2014 #76

yes there is. it was called slavery. elehhhhna Sep 2014 #18

One of the problems gaspee Sep 2014 #9

I would agree that would be a major pitfall of that type of discipline. LiberalFighter Sep 2014 #11

Not just physical. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #16

One problem with taking race into consideration TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #15

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #19

My father used to have to get his switch JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #21

Has this also come down from slavery? Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #26

Are you sincere in your questions? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #27

Yes I am sincere. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #32

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #33

Didn't I already say that with respect to beating black people? Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #49

This makes it worse Kalidurga Sep 2014 #28

When my grandson and I heard about this we both mentioned how this did not sound like the jwirr Sep 2014 #35

Yep, but the rest of us as in society as a whole Kalidurga Sep 2014 #36

If he is the man we saw here in MN then he should stand up and do what he can to stop this type of jwirr Sep 2014 #37

I just read in another thread there is another allegation Kalidurga Sep 2014 #38

If he does not change he is missing a real opportunity to do something about the bad situations. jwirr Sep 2014 #39

Totally agree Kalidurga Sep 2014 #40

Exactly. jwirr Sep 2014 #53

Thank you. You are right about the abuse being for different reasons. I hear what you are saying jwirr Sep 2014 #31

Strong, I cannot stand with you here DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #34

+1. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #41

And thankfully, we have the luxury of NOT having to teach the lessons ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #43

Do you not see a difference between ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #42

The problem is, "whooping" kids does not prevent them from doing anything. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #45

I'm with you. amandabeech Sep 2014 #55

Okay; but generations of my family history says differently. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #58

As someone with family members also have had problems with cops DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #47

Very interesting. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author TBF Sep 2014 #46

I'm glad you posted this. I got to cut my own fair share of switches back in the day Number23 Sep 2014 #50

yeah, pregnant smokers are JUST LIKE toddler beating steriod loaded elehhhhna Sep 2014 #56

See what I mean, folks? Number23 Sep 2014 #57

Pregnant smokers might inflict more long-term damage. kwassa Sep 2014 #66

typical heaven05 Sep 2014 #99

I'm in my 50s and corporal punishment was used Ilsa Sep 2014 #51

Thank you for adding an angle to it that I personally hadn't considered. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #52

As I mentioned ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #61

My parents ran down the sidewalk with a bamboo switch. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #54

I feel you and love you. But with this incident in the AA Anansi1171 Sep 2014 #59

I agree with everything you've written ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #62

I respect your truth, Brother, and I am thankful that whatever the means... Anansi1171 Sep 2014 #65

Would you repeat that phrase ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #71

Lovely post. Thanks for that. Number23 Sep 2014 #64

White Americans have not abandoned corporal punishment. 75% still approve .. kwassa Sep 2014 #67

I stand corrected. And in fact I am not surprised. Anansi1171 Sep 2014 #70

Son, I'm gonna whup you to protect you from those vicious white racists tularetom Sep 2014 #60

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #63

He said he DOES NOT (NOT, NOT, NOT) believe that the way to raise a child tblue37 Sep 2014 #69

Thank you for reading what I have actually written. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #73

Thank You for the post. NOLALady Sep 2014 #77

LOL, that's the most condescending response to a post I've ever received tularetom Sep 2014 #74

Speaking of hitting a sore spot and acting like a 10 year old ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #78

Should Mr Peterson be charged with a crime for what he did? tularetom Sep 2014 #80

I don't know ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #81

1SBM, I seldom bother to argue with someone who seems determined *not* to understand what I am tblue37 Sep 2014 #84

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #88

No. That is why the black parents *in the past* thought they had to tblue37 Sep 2014 #83

Frustration explains a lot of it tularetom Sep 2014 #87

So you completely discount my explanation that provides historical contextual ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #94

First of all I am not minimizing your personal experience tularetom Sep 2014 #95

right heaven05 Sep 2014 #104

nothing condescending in that response heaven05 Sep 2014 #101

"Approval vs. understanding, excusing vs. explaining, it's a pretty fine distinction." DeadLetterOffice Sep 2014 #112

I very much appreciate you providing some context for this situation. Sheldon Cooper Sep 2014 #97

I guess you are one of the few ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #103

Yeah, you're taking a lot of crap in this thread and it seems mainly due to Sheldon Cooper Sep 2014 #106

cuts into the skin is abuse. Simple as that. riversedge Sep 2014 #102

That completely misses everything I have written, and ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #105

Wrong is wrong, regardless of color YarnAddict Sep 2014 #108

I have never said that what AP did wasn't wrong ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #109

I can understand your frustration with the responses you've been getting YarnAddict Sep 2014 #111

I can think of two things ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #113

In that case, YarnAddict Sep 2014 #114

No! I can't ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #115

The problem with privilege YarnAddict Sep 2014 #116

But take heart ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #117

And where did they learn it? tblue Sep 2014 #110

observations of a white member of a mixed family carolinayellowdog Sep 2014 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Sep 2014 #119