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1StrongBlackMan

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Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:33 PM Nov 2014

Racism: The Impossible Discussion ... [View all]

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As many know/have witnessed, I am frequently engaged in running "battles" on the topic of Racism. While I have, yet, to call anyone, here on DU, a Racist; many, have understood me as having done so. I have repeatedly asked/challenged those making that claim to cite to a single instance of me having done so; but, each request has gone unfulfilled ... and rightfully so ... because I haven't.

In fact, I have (mostly) limited my participation in "race" threads to merely correcting the improper usage of antiquated/non-academically accepted definitions of the term ... And that seems to be a full-time job. This seems to be the accepted practice on DU ... for every topic, other than race. ETA: Imagine the DU response to someone opining that climate change is a hoax, or that vaccines cause autism, or that "trickle down" valid because "it is (they are) widely believed" or because a journalist said so, or because someone wrote it a decade ago?

Many here want to argue/believe that "racism goes both ways" and cite to "the common usage" of the term, or Webster's and/or pre-2000 writings on the topic. That would be fine, if the definition had/has remained unstudied and stagnant. It has not; rather, as with most phenomena, academic study results in refinement of our understanding of the observed ... It happened with the Earth's shape, with gravity, and Earth's position in the universe; and it's happening in such fields as climate study, economics and human behavior ... most of which, people (liberals) readily accept.

My "problem" with the current state of discussion, and the reason I entitled this OP as I have, is because without an accurate/common definition of the term racism, no discussion of racism can be had.

But I'm tired ... I'm tired of reading "Racism goes both ways" and when I post a correction, getting "well, that's not what the dictionary says" responses. Then, I post the 21st century definition, from peer-reviewed academic journals, with citations leading to the work describing the evolution of the definition, and I get ... "Well. I don't accept the definition! We will just have to agree to disagree." Then, in the very next thread on Racism, I get to repeat the process, as the very same people, repeat the same "racism goes both ways" arguments.

Tell me ... How is this any different having a climate change discussion with a fox-watching conservative?

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Racism: The Impossible Discussion ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 OP
Find it no different that any disscussion with people who refuse to remove the blinders they wear. bravenak Nov 2014 #1
I'm sick of it too JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #2
Not impossible but certainly difficult. Behind the Aegis Nov 2014 #3
I do not see a difference noiretextatique Nov 2014 #4
Just remember that some posters love to play dumb in an argument Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #5
Great post and I agree. lovemydog Nov 2014 #6
k&r rbrnmw Nov 2014 #7
All for naught ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #8
thank you rbrnmw Nov 2014 #9
Thankyou ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #10
they are the ones missing out on some of the best DU has to offer then rbrnmw Nov 2014 #11
Look at WHO you are talking to ... kwassa Nov 2014 #12
It's different because people can't admit marym625 Dec 2014 #13
But that's the thing ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #14
I understand where you are coming from. marym625 Dec 2014 #15
Link please ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #16
I will send the link in a private message marym625 Dec 2014 #17
Good enough. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #18
I admit I get very frustrated when people don't understand the distinctions... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #19
And, the same ones that wish to strip out the power dynamics ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #21
It's been explained, and explained clearly. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #20
Can you please clarify your second paragraph marym625 Dec 2014 #22
When you are white ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #23
Thank you for the clarification marym625 Dec 2014 #24
... ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #25
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