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Ocelot II

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1. I didn't know that about Degas.
Sun Feb 28, 2021, 12:21 PM
Feb 2021

I guess I'd make only a brief reference to it, though, since it isn't especially relevant to his art. Some great artists, musicians, etc., held reprehensible views, and discussing them can be problematic. The composer Wagner is another example. He was a pretty rabid anti-Semite, even for his time, but there's nothing in his operas that reflects this. He became controversial well after his death, when Hitler and the Nazis lauded his operas for their depiction of Germanic mythological figures, along with the overt anti-Semitism in his writings. Degas doesn't have that kind of association, though.

I didn't know that about Degas. Ocelot II Feb 2021 #1
The thing is that I love Degas work (I don't love Wagner's music). CTyankee Feb 2021 #5
I do like Wagner's music (I'm listening to "Das Rheingold" right now), Ocelot II Feb 2021 #6
But didn't the Nazis glorify Wagner very loudly and publicly? CTyankee Feb 2021 #10
They did, but that doesn't make his music less valuable; Ocelot II Feb 2021 #12
I think you conveyed the dichotomy (the beauty of his talent and the ugliness SeeingEyeRefugee Nov 2021 #22
I think it's easy to forget or ignore the deep vein of anti-Semitism cyclonefence Feb 2021 #2
I believe one source referenced the Dreyfus Affair, which evidently is when Degas was CTyankee Feb 2021 #7
Were the ballet dancers kept by these men? cyclonefence Feb 2021 #13
I am guessing that these girls were sexually exploited. CTyankee Feb 2021 #15
I agree cyclonefence Feb 2021 #18
Sadly, yes. CTyankee Mar 2021 #19
I think I'd skip it Bayard Feb 2021 #3
I don't think Michelangelo being gay would be an issue. Overlooking predation on young girls is CTyankee Feb 2021 #9
Not advice, but I read this recently about Degas: Gaugamela Feb 2021 #4
Yes, I have that source. He did paint their pain and exhaustion. And you see in his sculpture, The CTyankee Feb 2021 #8
It's no secret that artists tend to be eccentric misfits. It seems Degas' work may be closer to Gaugamela Feb 2021 #11
well, for one thing, Degas did not want to paint outdoors and said so. CTyankee Feb 2021 #14
I wish you well on your book. Sounds like a labor of love. Gaugamela Feb 2021 #16
It is. I'm old now but I love art history. working on this book keeps my mind from turning into CTyankee Feb 2021 #17
You might look at how the recent controversies over Gaughan are being Mike 03 Mar 2021 #20
I'm not that interested in Gauguin, to be honest. But I am not surprised at this discovery. CTyankee Mar 2021 #21
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