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JonLP24

(29,346 posts)
35. 1 game on the road which was their second straight week
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:39 PM
Feb 2014

I don't think losing at home to Arizona is a good example of their defense isn't that good. They forced 6 turnovers in that game and pretty much held them in check except for Andre Ellington (Cards are like the 2010 Chiefs who handed it off more to Thomas Jones while Jamal Charles was leading the league in rushing - handing it off more to someone who isn't there best running back). It was the Cardinals defense that won that game who also finished t-5 (San Francisco) in defensive yards per pass attempt who was playing as well as anyone in the NFC at the time.

It was also Seattle's only loss at home in the past 2 seasons.

When Seattle's defense isn't making mistakes and flying all over the place and hitting like they were things start to snowball and that is when they take over. They defeated SF at home by a combined 71-16 score who had 24 wins in 2 seasons.

They would have a lot more scores that look like this Super Bowl result if they didn't have play two top 5 pass defenses in division as well as in-conference. They held Carolina on-the-road to 7 but since Carolina's D is solid, they only scored 12.

on edit

Manning went 26/39, 377 yards, 9.6 YPA and 3 TDs - 0 Ints in a conference championship game against the #1 pass defense NYJ (as well as #1 overall defense).

Next season, Jets weren't as good but still top 10 he went 18/26, 225 yards, 8.65 YPA, 1 TD - 0 INT. They didn't win but he didn't have what I'd consider a bad game. He destroyed a top 10 pass D in back-to-back years (Denver) in the post-season. People downgraded those victories for some reason but no one else shredded them as well as he did. Does he struggle against top defenses? Yes but so does any QB. Brady has struggled against top defenses (2009 obvious example) as well as some average ones but it is interesting the Brady's numbers are better in his last 16 playoff games (8-8) than his first 10 (10-0).

sssshhh....this game is not over yet. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2013 #1
Broncos have no defense out there without Rodgers-Cromartie. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #2
Nope, that goes to the Houston Oilers blowing it against Buffalo in Jan. 1993. TexasTowelie Nov 2013 #3
Warren Moon was another guy who put up huge numbers except when geek tragedy Nov 2013 #4
Every time this debate comes up pipi_k Nov 2013 #5
Brady is a top 5 of the modern era geek tragedy Nov 2013 #6
Pretty much... pipi_k Nov 2013 #8
Flacco is on his way, I think. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #10
Hey - where's Bart Starr? TBF Jan 2014 #12
I don't consider Starr to be of the modern era. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #13
I see - yes that makes sense. TBF Jan 2014 #14
I would take Favre over Starr any day. n/t Goblinmonger Jan 2014 #15
And here's some fighting words for you Goblinmonger Jan 2014 #16
Oh dear ... TBF Jan 2014 #17
He has numbers on his side Goblinmonger Jan 2014 #18
Let's not forget, brady is the only QB ever in NFL history, to be 100 games over .500 DrewFlorida Nov 2013 #7
I just read that pipi_k Nov 2013 #9
The interesting thing about the number of championships JonLP24 Jan 2014 #11
Thought I'd kick this for today's game fishwax Jan 2014 #19
Look for Brady to light them up, big time. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #20
Of course, what I meant to write is that with the injury to NE's top QB geek tragedy Jan 2014 #21
I was worried when Rodgers-Cromartie went down fishwax Jan 2014 #23
and I almost gagged when they showed horseface, elway, holding the AFC trophy..... a kennedy Jan 2014 #22
Kick. Should #18 just retire after this humiliation? nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #24
Maybe if it was any other team JonLP24 Feb 2014 #25
Seahawks defense is good, but not THAT good. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #33
1 game on the road which was their second straight week JonLP24 Feb 2014 #35
They were certainly a great defense, but 85 geek tragedy Feb 2014 #36
I also add the 2002 Bucaneers JonLP24 Feb 2014 #37
Pssst...the Seahawks beat Brady, too.... Wounded Bear Feb 2014 #26
they did, but... pipi_k Feb 2014 #28
Brady kept the Pats in that game, as opposed to Pick-Six Peyton nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #32
Tom Brady IS the better quarterback. Rockholm Feb 2014 #27
I saw Eli's face pipi_k Feb 2014 #29
Joeybee and I discussed this recently - TBF Feb 2014 #30
I wonder how much of it is Belichick. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #31
Maybe so - TBF Feb 2014 #34
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