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pipi_k

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5. Just wanted to set that record straight
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:01 PM
Jan 2012

about the "cheating" that probably most teams did, but only the Patriots got caught doing...

That was two or three games into the 2007 season. They were caught and then it stopped. The NFL, no doubt, was watching them like hawks.

Even though it stopped, they still went 18-0 and would have had a perfect 19-0 season, winning the Superbowl against NYG, except for that one extremely lucky catch by David Tyree with less than 2:00 left in the 4th.

As for what happened in the seasons after, remember that Brady's leg got mashed in the first game of the 2008 or 2009 season and a relative unknown, Matt Cassell, took the team to 11-5 or something like that. And this was after the "cheating" scandal had been exposed and the NFL probably still watching them like hawks.

People laughed at some of the "old" players, who did end up leaving. They got younger players. Rookies. Still had better than .500 seasons in spite of the rookies and in spite of being closely observed for any further signs of "cheating".

So just wanted to point out that, after that whole episode, some more honest teams admitted to having done pretty much the same thing. They just never got caught.

Anyway. From all the sports articles I've been reading since Sunday, it looks like even though Las Vegas has the Pats as 3 point favorites, the articles themselves make them look like the underdogs due to their crappy Defense. The mantra is that "Defenses win championships".

If that's true, then the Giants, with a vastly better Defense, are not the underdogs.

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I'm stumped. [View all] Wait Wut Jan 2012 OP
Couple of reasons... pipi_k Jan 2012 #1
While I admire the woman... Wait Wut Jan 2012 #2
Course, I have to say Giants, my "heart and soul" team. Maybe Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2012 #3
Yeah, two more reasons for me to pick the Giants. Wait Wut Jan 2012 #4
Just wanted to set that record straight pipi_k Jan 2012 #5
ard Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2012 #6
"That was two or three games into the 2007 season. They were caught and then it stopped". trumad Jan 2012 #7
You're right...it was the first game of the season... joeybee12 Jan 2012 #9
They were caught w/ a Pat's coach JonLP24 Jan 2012 #11
Thank you for pipi_k Jan 2012 #16
You have proof, of course... pipi_k Jan 2012 #14
"one extremely lucky catch"? Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #8
Yep trumad Jan 2012 #10
I'll term this in the same words pipi_k Jan 2012 #15
Dude---enough of the sour grapes. trumad Jan 2012 #17
Actually, the Patriots were caught cheating the same way the year before against the Packers Poiuyt Jan 2012 #25
Also a Bears fan getting old in mke Jan 2012 #12
It's not too tough. Wait Wut Jan 2012 #18
Just curious. Why can't you stand Tom Brady? virgogal Jan 2012 #13
I know this isn't going to be received well... Wait Wut Jan 2012 #19
Your opinion is fine with me. I like baseball and ice hocky,not football. Get yourself virgogal Jan 2012 #20
"overrated douche" trumad Jan 2012 #22
Well... Wait Wut Jan 2012 #24
openion sumi12 Jan 2012 #21
Pitchers and catchers report in less than a month. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2012 #23
Easy. Pick the Pats. RUMMYisFROSTED Feb 2012 #26
3 reasons Botany Feb 2012 #27
Well, to be fair... pipi_k Feb 2012 #28
Is he dying? Wait Wut Feb 2012 #29
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