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darkstar3

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74. If you append "in the classroom" to your statement, then I'd agree with you.

Fri Feb 17, 2012, 09:01 PM

Feb 2012

I suspect GM would as well. However, this isn't just about "in the classroom". Personal life comes into it as well. I've seen teacher contracts marked for non-renewal because the principal or the school board found out that the teacher...

Went to a stip club.
Worked as a stripper for two years long before starting her teaching career.
Drank beer in the presence of a student. That student just happened to be the child of a family friend.
And much more.

When it comes to teachers, personal lives are under incredible scrutiny, especially in rural America. And none of the things I mentioned above are nearly as taboo as being the ultimate kind of infidel: not one who perhaps sees God a little differently yet still believes in him, but one who doesn't believe in God at all.

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"Persecuted" Atheists in America Need a New Perspective [View all] rug Feb 2012 OP

they, why should atheists worry when a president says they should be stripped of citizenship. unblock Feb 2012 #1

And of course blacks and women have valid complaints about lack of representation dmallind Feb 2012 #6

I really don't care what the religiously insane think about atheists... mike_c Feb 2012 #2

Well if they didn't open their mouths no one would know they were an aetheist. RegieRocker Feb 2012 #3

So we should remain in the closet? chemp Feb 2012 #4

WTF..... movonne Feb 2012 #5

Damn uppity atheists belong in the back of the bus, eh? Thanks for proving the article false. dmallind Feb 2012 #7

Well if feminists didn't open their mouths dmallind Feb 2012 #10

A chauvinist does not want women to behave like men ever. RegieRocker Feb 2012 #15

Of course they do! dmallind Feb 2012 #41

Nah a chauvinist would likely tell a woman to shut up RegieRocker Feb 2012 #48

just because the faithful are delusional, a lack of faith must also be delusional? ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2012 #11

OMG Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #12

Spoken like a True Christian mr blur Feb 2012 #16

Such intolerance and... rexcat Feb 2012 #22

Yep the biggest morans don't know what a typo is. RegieRocker Feb 2012 #85

If you think DU is proof of anything in real life, darkstar3 Feb 2012 #87

LOL you're saying it's all fiction! Maybe you're not real either. RegieRocker Feb 2012 #88

No, but thanks for playing. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #91

I would say that atheists don't always start... rexcat Feb 2012 #90

Atheists should ignore discrimination by Christians because Christians are murdered somewhere else? immoderate Feb 2012 #8

that last paragraph is nonsensical. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2012 #9

This article is very confused on some crucial issues LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #13

Hitchens became a US citizen after 9/11. Jim__ Feb 2012 #17

Here's a news flash for you skepticscott Feb 2012 #20

Here's a flash for you Jim__ Feb 2012 #25

Where did I say I was "ostracized"? skepticscott Feb 2012 #26

Where did I say you said you were being ostracized? Jim__ Feb 2012 #27

I lost a job due to my atheism lazarus Feb 2012 #30

But you were being skepticscott Feb 2012 #52

Congratulations on living in a relatively secular part of the country. jeff47 Feb 2012 #33

won't live in the south ever again. AlbertCat Feb 2012 #95

I'm in what one would consider rural NY jeff47 Feb 2012 #97

Tell Fred Whitehead how to do it. dmallind Feb 2012 #42

I've been an atheist all my adult life and I've never been ostracized. AlbertCat Feb 2012 #94

Who is 'They'? LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #23

The antecedent of "they" is "people." Jim__ Feb 2012 #24

OK; sorry about the Hitchens mistake, but he is British by origin... LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #28

they might be rude to their opponents, AlbertCat Feb 2012 #96

many believers feel offended or threatened at the mere notion that god might not exist unblock Feb 2012 #14

So how would this go over, I wonder? darkstar3 Feb 2012 #18

Who is desperate? rug Feb 2012 #35

He said who. You have adequate command of the English language. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #75

I do. Enough to eschew proxies. rug Feb 2012 #76

What a bunch of horseshit skepticscott Feb 2012 #19

Yep. The weekly "get over yourselves, atheists" rant... onager Feb 2012 #21

I'm sure you and others will apply this same standard to Christians on DU Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #29

Are you saying atheists are persecuted or are not persecuted? rug Feb 2012 #31

Not my point. Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #32

Actually, your response to my question is not a response at all. rug Feb 2012 #34

It is a response. Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #37

So then you do not think atheists are persecuted in the U.S. rug Feb 2012 #39

Never said I did or didn't think it. Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #43

per�se�cute rug Feb 2012 #44

Then, yes, there are atheists that are persecuted in the US. Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #45

Like anything else, there are degrees. rug Feb 2012 #46

Yes there are Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #47

And right on cue, here come the rationalizations... cleanhippie Feb 2012 #79

Type here in DU does not make it fact. I have never been asked my religious or lack of RegieRocker Feb 2012 #51

Where I teach, I don't think I could be out. Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #53

Unbelievable seriously. There are more believers of a higher power that RegieRocker Feb 2012 #57

You just described a closet Christian teacher. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #58

That is my point. They should not be expressing their views or opinions RegieRocker Feb 2012 #63

If you append "in the classroom" to your statement, then I'd agree with you. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #74

My eighth grade teacher was an ex stripper. RegieRocker Feb 2012 #77

Oh, well, since everything was hunky-dory in your town it must be true everywhere. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #81

Have you read chicken little? RegieRocker Feb 2012 #83

What you absolutely refuse to see is that this is about far more than the workplace. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #84

I'm not saying I should be able to stand Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #62

I am an agnostic and i never run into a problem RegieRocker Feb 2012 #64

So you're saying that agnosticism is a middle ground between theism and atheism? darkstar3 Feb 2012 #73

Lol. No what I am saying it is an advantageous viewpoint to observe RegieRocker Feb 2012 #78

But knowledge is a different question than belief. No matter how superior you feel in your position, darkstar3 Feb 2012 #80

That is hogwash and it is you who needs to get educated on the subject RegieRocker Feb 2012 #82

I don't see how anything you wrote here contradicts me. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #86

Of course not how could you with tunnel vision and RegieRocker Feb 2012 #89

Denial can be an ugly thing. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #92

I did not say you were ugly! RegieRocker Feb 2012 #93

A personal attack, no matter how clever or thinly veiled, means you cannot support your argument cleanhippie Feb 2012 #98

You need help seriously. RegieRocker Feb 2012 #99

Oh lookie, ANOTHER personal attack. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #100

Why is it that the most vehement haters can never tell their detractors apart? darkstar3 Feb 2012 #101

Probably because they are blinded by their rage and desire to be "right" all the time. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #102

Not at all. You are all the same (atheists) RegieRocker Feb 2012 #103

Reality disagrees with you, but good for you. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #104

Didn't take long for Mr. Hyde to show up there, did it? darkstar3 Feb 2012 #105

I don't think the FT article said they are 'persecuted' muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #38

No it doesn't. Hence its suggestion for a new perspective. rug Feb 2012 #40

The next time my kids come home crying because others were spewing their Christ-based vile at them, ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #36

If the religious kids come home crying because others were spewing their religion RegieRocker Feb 2012 #49

I know Zombie can speak for himself, but where do you get that from? Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #54

I teach my kids compassion and reason. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #55

Make sure you teach them freedom of religion and freedom from religion. RegieRocker Feb 2012 #56

My wife and I plan on teaching them about many religions. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #59

Very clear your motive it is. RegieRocker Feb 2012 #65

One of my communication teachers was teaching about projecting motives this week. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #67

Isn't that the truth. cbayer Feb 2012 #68

That is an enormous lapse of logic. ChadwickHenryWard Feb 2012 #50

The most famous atheist in America, Madelyn Murray O'Hair, was murdered. Just a few years ago Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #60

She was. By a member of her organization. rug Feb 2012 #61

Not exactly. I was involved in the investigation in Texas Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #66

It's pretty well settled David Roland Waters was an atheist. rug Feb 2012 #69

It took 6 years for an apathetic Austin police dept. to really look for and find her (1995-2001). Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #70

Fuck this guy, just because atheists aren't killed on a daily basis doesn't mean we have it easy... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #71

It's a problem. Stay alert. Though? Things are better than ever Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #72