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Jackpine Radical

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8. One can have victims under age 13 and still not be a pedophile.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 01:05 PM
Nov 2013

Can I assume you're familiar with this study, for example? (It's behind a firewall, so I can only post the abstract without incurring copyright problems; if you were to want the whole thing, I could backchannel you a copy under fair-use conditions)

The Utility of the Diagnosis of Pedophilia: A Comparison of Various Classification Procedures
Arch Sex Behav (2007) 36:423–436 DOI 10.1007/s10508-006-9091-x

Drew A. Kingston · Philip Firestone · Heather M. Moulden · John M. Bradford

Received: 4 November 2005 / Revised: 11 April 2006 / Accepted: 24 June 2006 / Published online: 21 December 2006 ⃝C Springer Science+Business Media, Inc. 2006

Abstract
This study examined the utility of the diagnosis of pedophilia in a sample of extra-familial child molesters assessed at a university teaching hospital between 1982 and 1992. Pedophilia was defined in one of four ways: (1) DSM diagnosis made by a psychiatrist; (2) deviant phallometric profile; (3) DSM diagnosis and a deviant phallometric pro- file; and, (4) high scores based on the Screening Scale for Pedophilic Interest (Seto & Lalumie`re, 2001). Demographic data, psychological tests, and offence history were obtained and group differences were analyzed along with the ability of certain variables to contribute uniquely to the classification of pedophilia. Results indicated that few significant differ- ences existed on psychological measures between pedophilic and nonpedophilic extra-familial child molesters regardless of the classification system employed. Finally, results indi- cated that the procedures used to define pedophilia were not significantly related to one another. Results are discussed in terms of the utility of the diagnosis of pedophilia.

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Wait a minute. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #1
Agree with you exboyfil Nov 2013 #2
More info from the article: trotsky Nov 2013 #3
What the church did in 1984 was wrong. Also the police should have pushed it then. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #4
I think this situation is a perfect picture of the institutional problem that led to so much abuse. trotsky Nov 2013 #5
I'm trying to address a general problem, not necessarily this specific case. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #6
Exactly my point - the people who were in positions to do something trotsky Nov 2013 #7
One can have victims under age 13 and still not be a pedophile. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #8
Not really interested in the diagnostic classifications in this context. n/t trotsky Nov 2013 #13
And as long as you're not an official "pedophile" skepticscott Nov 2013 #21
I'm gonna turn you in to the ASPSM. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #22
You're the one who brought up the diagnostic classification skepticscott Nov 2013 #23
The term has a specific clinical meaning with forensic implications. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #24
And why does it matter skepticscott Nov 2013 #25
Since you seem to be labelling me an apologist, let me be clearer about my stance. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #28
All of which is irrelevant to your post 8 skepticscott Nov 2013 #29
I would argue that it has nothing to do with "moral guilt" Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #30
That has less to do with his view of pedophilia than with his capaign against all things religious. rug Nov 2013 #9
So I gather. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #10
Difficult work. What's your discipline? rug Nov 2013 #11
Psychology. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #12
I used to work at a maximum security forensic psychiatric hosptal in New York. rug Nov 2013 #14
20 states plus the Feds have sex offender commitment programs. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #16
For many many similar reports, follow Kathy Shaw at AbuseTracker: dimbear Nov 2013 #19
Oh I'm sure his antipathy to religion hasn't a thing to do with this post. rug Nov 2013 #26
I should make it clear to anyone just passing by that Kathy Shaw is a passionate reformer, dimbear Nov 2013 #27
"So we know that this ex-priest was not assessed as being extremely high-risk for reoffense." Rob H. Nov 2013 #15
More than 20 years ago. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #17
So the program didn't exist then? Rob H. Nov 2013 #18
I was clearly wrong about his having undergone the sort of risk assessment Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #20
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