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The problem with religion The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2012 #1
"The believers believe because humans told them to" Not I. napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #2
I'm not picking on you or anybody; sorry if you took it that way. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2012 #3
People in observation of phenomenon, I believe. napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #6
"Why make this a battle against religious like me instead of ..." MarkCharles Feb 2012 #4
And that's one of the problems with religion: The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2012 #5
What if I replace the word "faith" with the word "knife" in the above? napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #10
I think you are missing my point, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2012 #14
Then I stand with you 100% napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #15
What is it you believe on faith alone? cleanhippie Feb 2012 #16
I believe in the capacity of faith, on faith. napoleon_in_rags Feb 2012 #17
I agree religion and the one God are unprovable. part man all 86 Feb 2012 #12
In the holy bible, satan is the prince of the air, part man all 86 Feb 2012 #7
I thought the Mayans said the world was going to end next December. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2012 #8
no the 400 year cycle ends on 21 december 2012, but the 800 year cycle is still running. part man all 86 Feb 2012 #9
the world is not ending that is not in the holy bible part man all 86 Feb 2012 #11
That's not a good enough reason. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2012 #13
You have a serious habit of lumping all religion together and humblebum Feb 2012 #18
And now for the comic relief... darkstar3 Feb 2012 #19
Yes, comic relief is one area that you definitely excel in. That humblebum Feb 2012 #20
Your accusations are as accurate as your attempt at reversal is effective. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #21
Yeh. nt humblebum Feb 2012 #22
* cleanhippie Feb 2012 #24
If he gets CT, it won't be from right clicking. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #25
As usual, you show that you have no coherent argument, so you resort to the old humblebum Feb 2012 #27
Where everyone sees contradiction, you see confirmation, right? cleanhippie Feb 2012 #32
Because edhopper Feb 2012 #26
No unless you had money or raw power on your side they were both about the Leontius Feb 2012 #30
Sure edhopper Feb 2012 #37
And one lead to the Renaisance and the other to Capitalism. Leontius Feb 2012 #40
The Renaissance followed the Dark Ages edhopper Feb 2012 #42
Typical of you to miss the point so badly skepticscott Feb 2012 #28
Well, it's nice to see you finally admit to atheism being narrow-minded. humblebum Feb 2012 #29
Nice to see that skepticscott Feb 2012 #31
I have often said that it was very narrowly focused, as well as narrow-minded. And, humblebum Feb 2012 #33
* cleanhippie Feb 2012 #34
Obviously you have no clue skepticscott Feb 2012 #35
Oh, I clearly know the difference. Except, in your case, they mesh. nt humblebum Feb 2012 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Feb 2012 #41
Yeah, because deeply-religious regimes really encourage free-thought and dissent, don't they? mr blur Feb 2012 #38
You mean like atheistic regimes? nt humblebum Feb 2012 #39
The world that there can be evidence for isn't big enough for human beings to live in... saras Feb 2012 #23
You could also put it this way: GliderGuider Feb 2012 #43
No, I couldn't put it that way. That's like saying... MarkCharles Feb 2012 #44
So why is this not happening in other Western nations? GliderGuider Feb 2012 #45
I would guess you haven't traveled very far from America MarkCharles Feb 2012 #47
Your guess is wrong, but you had no way of knowing that. GliderGuider Feb 2012 #49
Well, then, I stand corrected. MarkCharles Feb 2012 #53
That's much better, thanks. GliderGuider Feb 2012 #56
In that case, you MUST include militant atheist fanaticism. Because humblebum Feb 2012 #46
Your comments always bring a chuckle....Which candidates.. MarkCharles Feb 2012 #48
Then I was correct in my assessment of your credentials as an historian. humblebum Feb 2012 #50
You might consider recording a dub-step version of... MarkCharles Feb 2012 #55
Then I was correct in my assessment of your credentials as an historian. humblebum Feb 2012 #57
Ignoring all those dozens of religious wars in history,... MarkCharles Feb 2012 #58
Well, I would say that you are still displaying a very limited grasp of history. humblebum Feb 2012 #59
Yes, I'm proud of my "limited grasp" so limited... MarkCharles Feb 2012 #60
You are still relying on the same old ad homs and vacuous arguments, when you should humblebum Feb 2012 #61
To quote you accurately: " I am not really concerned about why or how MarkCharles Feb 2012 #62
Those other variables of which you speak mean little when the numbers are so pronounced. humblebum Feb 2012 #63
"other variables of which you speak mean little when the numbers are so pronounced" MarkCharles Feb 2012 #64
You are seriously doing a dance to avoid the most obvious point, humblebum Feb 2012 #65
. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #51
Um? Who is posting the most broken records around here? Oh yeh! humblebum Feb 2012 #52
. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #54
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