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skepticscott

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4. Catholic Church doctrine and policy forbids gay men to be priests

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 01:35 PM

Dec 2013

It states that same sex couples should never be allowed to marry legally, and refuses the grant them that sacrament. It fires people working for Catholic schools who enter into same sex marriages. It fights tirelessly against laws giving homosexuals the simple equality they are entitled to. This to some is a gay-friendly agenda? Seriously? And here on DU to boot? Sad.

As trotsky said, the bar for decency has certainly been lowered, and mainly by Catholics desperate for any reason not to be embarrassed of their church.

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American Catholics give a thumbs-up to Pope Francis and his gay-friendly, �Marxist� agenda [View all] DonViejo Dec 2013 OP

As a recovering Catholic, I freaking LOVE Pope Francis! bitchkitty Dec 2013 #1

Does This Set The Stage For An American Political Reformation Pitting Catholics Against The Fundamentalists cantbeserious Dec 2013 #2

No need to fight about it. No Vested Interest Dec 2013 #8

Wow. trotsky Dec 2013 #3

It teaches celibacy, i.e., chastity, for every Catholc outside a sacramental marriage. rug Dec 2013 #7

While conveniently refusing to offer sacramental marriage Good without a god Dec 2013 #12

Is your inaccurate, divisive bullshit something that should be spread on a liberal website? rug Dec 2013 #14

dont hold back rug. Warren Stupidity Dec 2013 #40

don't curdle the egg nog, warren. rug Dec 2013 #41

It's a fun, hilarious Catch-22 Goblinmonger Dec 2013 #15

Maybe you should have paid more attention in high school seminary. That's old black letter doctrine. rug Dec 2013 #34

Catholic Church doctrine and policy forbids gay men to be priests skepticscott Dec 2013 #4

No it doesn't. It requires celibacy of priests, straight or gay. rug Dec 2013 #5

But it does bar gay men from ordination if they have been, DonViejo Dec 2013 #6

Do you have a cite for that? It has a long history of supporting civil rights. rug Dec 2013 #9

It was part of the changes made after the sex abuse scandals DonViejo Dec 2013 #19

Can you define or find a definition for "gay culture"? cbayer Dec 2013 #25

The Dominicans have again put their finger on it. rug Dec 2013 #30

"It is a risk that one must sometimes take." pinto Dec 2013 #32

Nuns have often been on the front line. cbayer Dec 2013 #38

Yeah, a Fransiscan started the first AIDS support organization in Montery County. pinto Dec 2013 #39

If the poster had actually looked at Catholic doctrine Good without a god Dec 2013 #11

The cite is in comment #19. I'm so sorry that I couldn't stay on DonViejo Dec 2013 #21

My sarcastic comment was directed at the person Good without a god Dec 2013 #29

That's just plain not true. cbayer Dec 2013 #16

I don't care how many priests you know that support gay rights... DonViejo Dec 2013 #20

That doesn't say anything about supporting GLBT rights. cbayer Dec 2013 #22

Just what the heck do you think... DonViejo Dec 2013 #23

See above for an interesting discussion and link on this. cbayer Dec 2013 #26

Read it and weep... DonViejo Dec 2013 #24

We had a thread on this case recently. cbayer Dec 2013 #27

The Telegraph omits the dog receiving Communion at one of his Masses. rug Dec 2013 #42

Catholic doctrine states Good without a god Dec 2013 #10

Aside from "practicing" homosexuality (or heterosexuality for that matter), which bars any candidate rug Dec 2013 #13

So where's the link to Francis changing this policy. Goblinmonger Dec 2013 #17

There is none. rug Dec 2013 #31

Apparently religion will be getting the credit Good without a god Dec 2013 #35

Credit? rug Dec 2013 #36

Why don't you ask the Catholic Church what that means? Good without a god Dec 2013 #33

I can read what it means. But I'm not spinning like a top while doing so. rug Dec 2013 #37

I think there are many Catholics who are seeing much to hope for here. cbayer Dec 2013 #18

I'm not a Catholic mercymechap Dec 2013 #28

he`s going in the right direction madrchsod Dec 2013 #43

Not surprising goldent Dec 2013 #44

The lack of skepticism shown by progressives is troubling. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2013 #45

Skepticism of PR hate campaigns is alive and well, no matter who's pushing it. rug Dec 2013 #46

Yes, Hale has a point I agree with skepticscott Dec 2013 #47

PZ Meyers gives another resonating criticism of Fracophilia... Act_of_Reparation Dec 2013 #49

Whoa, that is a good one from PZ. trotsky Dec 2013 #50

Yes, he pretty much nails it skepticscott Dec 2013 #51

Someone else in this group attacked me for pointing out just that... trotsky Dec 2013 #48

Lol! You're actually comparing yourself to Muslims targeted after 9/11? rug Dec 2013 #52

Yup. okasha Dec 2013 #67

That kind of thing tries the limits of my patience... Act_of_Reparation Dec 2013 #58

gay friendly? Laughing Mirror Dec 2013 #53

Whether you agree with them or not, the Advocate named him their person of the year. cbayer Dec 2013 #54

Yes the Advocate did Laughing Mirror Dec 2013 #55

There was definitely some negative reaction, but I haven't seen any information cbayer Dec 2013 #56

Only the evidence of people saying they are cancelling Laughing Mirror Dec 2013 #57

Well, one has a comment that he canceled his subscription years ago cbayer Dec 2013 #59

Well I commend your speed reading abilities Laughing Mirror Dec 2013 #60

I am a pretty fast reader, but I'm also facile at using the word cbayer Dec 2013 #61

This thread was worth it for no other reason... trotsky Dec 2013 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author Heddi Dec 2013 #69

Isn't it true that the first definition provided is generally the most widely-accepted use of a term Heddi Dec 2013 #70

A cheap and dishonest shot. okasha Dec 2013 #71

Kind of like what you did to trotsky in this very thread? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2013 #72

Thanks for that. trotsky Dec 2013 #74

My post did not mention Muslims. okasha Dec 2013 #77

It was indeed a facile task. And you're wrong. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2013 #79

I don't know there is one Laughing Mirror Dec 2013 #63

I am interested in why that is so. cbayer Dec 2013 #64

If you want to know about how well the Advocate is respected now Laughing Mirror Dec 2013 #65

The site itself had comments when they first announced, but cbayer Dec 2013 #66

They appear to have taken them down Laughing Mirror Dec 2013 #73

I have no idea. Do you? cbayer Dec 2013 #75

Think a while Laughing Mirror Dec 2013 #76

How dismissive. cbayer Dec 2013 #78

I wish the best for this pope. I hope he and the church move more to the left. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #68