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In reply to the discussion: Muslim Attacks Atheist. Muslim Judge Dismisses Case, Blames Victim. [View all]Sal316
(3,373 posts)12. Seems pretty self explanatory to me.
"Each side takes the position of the man who was arrested for swinging his arms and hitting another in the nose, and asked the judge if he did not have a right to swing his arms in a free country. Your right to swing your arms ends just where the other mans nose begins.
By 1911 the expression was well-known enough within educational circles that it inspired a joke about a civics teacher:
A teacher having attended an institute where one of the workers gave a talk on Personal Rights, was quite pleased at one of the illustrations used. Standing before the teachers and swinging his fists around the speaker said: Now, I have a perfect right to stand here and swing my fists, but if I start down the aisle this way, suiting the action to the word, my rights leave off just where your nose begins.
Endeavoring to use the same illustration in his civics class later, he began, Now, I can stand here and swing my fists, but if I come down among you swinging my nose and that was as far as he got..
A teacher having attended an institute where one of the workers gave a talk on Personal Rights, was quite pleased at one of the illustrations used. Standing before the teachers and swinging his fists around the speaker said: Now, I have a perfect right to stand here and swing my fists, but if I start down the aisle this way, suiting the action to the word, my rights leave off just where your nose begins.
Endeavoring to use the same illustration in his civics class later, he began, Now, I can stand here and swing my fists, but if I come down among you swinging my nose and that was as far as he got..
Link for both references.
Please note that in no way was the physical altercation justified.
Just understand that the right to say/do whatever one wants is, in fact, limited and not absolute because that's the society we live in. Marching as zombie whatever doesn't make one a "free speech crusader" or whatever... it just makes one a totally insensitive jerk.
Oh...and your headline is as reasonable as the conservative argument that the judge that overturned Prop 8 did so because he's gay.
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Muslim Attacks Atheist. Muslim Judge Dismisses Case, Blames Victim. [View all]
cleanhippie
Feb 2012
OP
Huh. Maybe there is something to the sharia-law scares I've been rolling my eyes at.
ZombieHorde
Feb 2012
#4
This sounds a lot like one of those 'sharia-law scares' you have been rolling you're eyes at.
wandy
Feb 2012
#7
You were doing fine until the second paragraph you wrote, then you fell off right field...
Humanist_Activist
Feb 2012
#15
Of course it was justified, its free speech, what about that is too difficult for you to understand?
Humanist_Activist
Feb 2012
#21
Too many people value their myths more than they do people, its sick and evil, period. n/t
Humanist_Activist
Feb 2012
#24
I think what Sal is getting at, is that religion deserves special consideration.
cleanhippie
Feb 2012
#39
This sheds an entirely new light on the case. And if true, needs to be investigated
humblebum
Feb 2012
#31